Thanks, Richard! Sounds like sound advice culled from many years experience! Harry
> On 26 Sep 2021, at 15:32, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: > > Harry, if I can make a suggestion to help in learning to become more > comfortable with braille. > > Mute speech. Write a sentence and read it on the braille display. > Use the braille display to fix errors. > Then, turn speech back on to confirm. > > VoiceOver speaking while using a braille display has always been more of a > distraction than a help. It shouldn't be that way, but that is the reality. > > HTH, > > > > > Richard > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > – Jane Wagner > > My Web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 3:01 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: VoiceOver Braille editing bug in iOS 15? > > Thank you for trying this out, Richard! Now that I have restarted my phone > several times I realise that the problem of mixing or repeating words seems > to have disappeared. I think what continues to spook me a bit is what > VoiceOver is echoing, which is not what I expect to be echoed. > > I am using Brailliant BI 40 X braille display paired with my iPhone 13 pro > and VoiceOver is set to voice characters and words and some punctuation. > Whilst I am typing in for example email VoiceOver echoes very confusing > random letters or echoes a word away before the letter I have just typed. I > also keep finding that VoiceOver fails consistently to voice spaces and a lot > of punctuation I have just typed. I tried setting punctuation in verbosity to > all that then VoiceOver started reading out the most bizarre bits of > punctuation on the screen is where there was no punctuation and when I went > back to some punctuation in verbosity VoiceOver continued to voice call > punctuation until I restarted the phone. Very complex! > I am a real beginner with Braille still so I do have speech to help reassure > me about what I am typing so strange behaviour with VoiceOver really throws > me! > Regards > Harry > >> On 24 Sep 2021, at 22:30, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: >> >> Well, I cannot duplicate this with an Orbit Reader 40 on an SE 2020 >> running the release of iOS 15. >> And, you cannot send attachments to this list, so your screen recording did >> not come through. >> >> >> >> >> Richard >> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." >> - Jane Wagner >> >> My Web site: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3447bf0bdd9a4e94b54c08d980d85116%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637682488831427418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=f7yNiDRX2%2FvjXtcK4dH7DiY0Th2ypuPUGJ5oCq7gGFA%3D&reserved=0 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:58 AM >> To: Abridged Recipients <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: VoiceOver Braille editing bug in iOS 15? >> >> Using iPhone 12 running VoiceOver and public release of iOS 15 and a >> Brailliant Bi 40 X. >> Open Notes app and create new note. >> Type: "they can do this". >> Move the cursor to just in front of word "do". >> Type "really" followed by a space. 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