Hi Harry, Another thing to try is if you are inserting text, type a space and move the cursor to just before that space. Then speech is more likely to say what you're typing.
Best, Anna > On Sep 26, 2021, at 9:48 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone > <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Thanks, Richard! Sounds like sound advice culled from many years experience! > Harry > >> On 26 Sep 2021, at 15:32, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: >> >> Harry, if I can make a suggestion to help in learning to become more >> comfortable with braille. >> >> Mute speech. Write a sentence and read it on the braille display. >> Use the braille display to fix errors. >> Then, turn speech back on to confirm. >> >> VoiceOver speaking while using a braille display has always been more of a >> distraction than a help. It shouldn't be that way, but that is the reality. >> >> HTH, >> >> >> >> >> Richard >> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” >> – Jane Wagner >> >> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 3:01 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: VoiceOver Braille editing bug in iOS 15? >> >> Thank you for trying this out, Richard! Now that I have restarted my phone >> several times I realise that the problem of mixing or repeating words seems >> to have disappeared. I think what continues to spook me a bit is what >> VoiceOver is echoing, which is not what I expect to be echoed. >> >> I am using Brailliant BI 40 X braille display paired with my iPhone 13 pro >> and VoiceOver is set to voice characters and words and some punctuation. >> Whilst I am typing in for example email VoiceOver echoes very confusing >> random letters or echoes a word away before the letter I have just typed. I >> also keep finding that VoiceOver fails consistently to voice spaces and a >> lot of punctuation I have just typed. I tried setting punctuation in >> verbosity to all that then VoiceOver started reading out the most bizarre >> bits of punctuation on the screen is where there was no punctuation and when >> I went back to some punctuation in verbosity VoiceOver continued to voice >> call punctuation until I restarted the phone. Very complex! >> I am a real beginner with Braille still so I do have speech to help reassure >> me about what I am typing so strange behaviour with VoiceOver really throws >> me! >> Regards >> Harry >> >>> On 24 Sep 2021, at 22:30, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Well, I cannot duplicate this with an Orbit Reader 40 on an SE 2020 >>> running the release of iOS 15. >>> And, you cannot send attachments to this list, so your screen recording did >>> not come through. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard >>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with >>> it." - Jane Wagner >>> >>> My Web site: >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3447bf0bdd9a4e94b54c08d980d85116%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637682488831427418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=f7yNiDRX2%2FvjXtcK4dH7DiY0Th2ypuPUGJ5oCq7gGFA%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:58 AM >>> To: Abridged Recipients <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: VoiceOver Braille editing bug in iOS 15? >>> >>> Using iPhone 12 running VoiceOver and public release of iOS 15 and a >>> Brailliant Bi 40 X. >>> Open Notes app and create new note. >>> Type: "they can do this". >>> Move the cursor to just in front of word "do". >>> Type "really" followed by a space. Then type two random letters and delete >>> them. >>> Then type "now". >>> Examine the sentence to see chaos! >>> See screen recording. >>> Harry >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. 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