Oh, grin, I'm hoping there's no problem with my iPhone 12 Mini. But well, although I really do want that phone and plan to keep it, I wound up getting two other iPhones that I wasn't expecting as I had planned them for family members, thus I just haven't gotten around to unpacking the 12 Mini yet.
----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, November 21, 2021 11:49 pm Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone > > > Hi Vicky, > > I also get a power off button at the top of the screen when pressing and > releasing volume up, pressing and releasing volume down, then holding down > the side power button for a couple of seconds. Only power off and cancel are > on the screen with this method. If the side power button is held down for > several seconds with this method, the phone does a hard reset. This is on my > iPhone 13 Mini. > > I'm curious why your iPhone 12 Mini is in a drawer. You really didn't explain > what the problem is with it. I love my 13 Mini. > > Alan Lemly > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Vicky > Collins > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2021 10:23 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone > > First, your description of the screen after pressing the volume down and side > button was great, and thanks so much for it. I actually will use that method > for turning off the phone from now on. But second, although I won't use it > anymore, when checking again just now, I sure did get a power off screen > where I could either power off or cancel if I pressed the volume up button > and released it, pressed the volume down button and released it, and then > pressed the side button for a second or two and released it. Sometimes it > even said power off before I could release the button so I knew that screen > had come up. However, if when following the above procedure I held down the > side button for about ten seconds and then released it, the phone did indeed > restart. > Oh, this is on my XR running iOS 15.1. I had originally purchased this phone > used off one of the blindness buy and sell lists and was planning to give it > to a family member but just kept it when that particular person had already > purchased an iPhone SE 2020 on their own. Thus since I now have this phone > and a couple of older ones I'm using to see how long it will take for their > batteries to run down, my poor 12 Mini is still in the drawer where I put it > in its box when I ordered it on the first day Apple started taking orders for > it. My first generation iPhone SE now shows its maximum capacity at 57 > percent but still supporting normal peak performance. And while the battery > might last a few hours on standby, things like web surfing or TV watching > will often, but not always, cause the battery to run down within an hour, and > it never lasts more than two hours doing those kinds of things. In fact, the > battery for that phone is pretty much completely unpredictable as to just how > long it will last, sometimes showing 100 percent after charging overnight and > then going down to zero and just shutting off if I perform an action such as > going a couple of layers into the settings. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> > To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Date: Sunday, November 21, 2021 2:10 pm > Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone > > > > > > > When you do what you describe you are not actually turning off the phone, > > you are restarting it. > > If you want to turn it off and you don't want to use the buttons, you can > > go to Settings > General > Shutdown and double tap. > > This also brings up the same menu as holding down say Volume Down and thew > > Side button, focus is most likely on Power Off, but just make sure of it > > because as I said, it's the same menu and it also includes the emergency > > call buton. > > Anyways, if you simultaneously press and hold volume down and the side > > button until the menu comes up, the only way you call emergency services > > would be if focus is on that button and you double tap without tchecking. > > I always swipe left until I get to the Power Off button and if it seems I > > am on Power Off already I may even swipe right once and back to the left to > > make sure. The screen when this menu comes up is laid out as follows: > > > > At the very top you still have the status bar with the time, your cell > > signal, Wi-Fi and battery status on the right Just underneath that is where > > it says "Double Tap to the Power Off" button, for a sighted person it > > actually says "Slide to Power off" because instead of double tapping they > > do a left to right swipe. > > After this there is now something I realize I never heard before, it says > > literally the following "location.fill.radiowaves.left.and.right iPhone > > Findable After Power Off his Forward" > > I tapped on that to see what it would do and the following message pops up > > on the screen: > > iPhone remains findable after power off. > > Find My helps you located this iPhone when it is lost or stolen even after > > power off. > > The location is visible in Find My on your other devices and to people in > > family sharing you share location with. > > You can temporarily turn off Find My network and it will resume when this > > iPhone is powered on again. > > Then there is an OK button. > > What I don't know is whether tapping on this turns off the Find My after > > power off because the only thing you can do when you see the above message > > is tap the OK button and this takes you right back to the same Power Off > > screen, but this weird sounding and not very descriptive button is not read > > any differently by Voiceover. I will write to Apple Accessibility and ask > > for clarification regarding this. > > OK, back to the Power Off screen description: > > > > If you swipe right again you now come to the "Medical Id" button > > Another swipe right takes you to the "Emergency Call" button If you > > explore the screen instead of swiping right you will find that there is a > > bit of a gap between the first two buttons and these two which are pretty > > much right in the middle of the screen. > > > > Lastly, if you swipe right again from the Emergency Call button, you find a > > "Cancel" button and as the name implies, if you double tap here it will > > again close this screen and take you back to wherever you were before. > > That button is again after a gap and it's located near the bottom of the > > screen. > > All these buttons go right across most of the screen from left to right, > > i.e. you can touch your screen near the left side and drag your finger down > > and find them or you can touch the screen near the top on the right side or > > in the middle. > > > > You really shouldn't be that afraid, you are much more likely to accidently > > call emergency services if you press the side button too many times > > repeatedly, just pressing and holding a volume button and the side button > > won't do that if you are careful not to double tap afterwards without > > making sure you are not on the emergency call button. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Sieghard > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > > Vicky Collins > > Sent: November 21, 2021 6:31 AM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone > > > > First, when reading the instructions for selling or giving away or whatever > > an old iPhone, before erasing the iPhone, one is also advised to sign out > > of iCloud, and I was wondering why since erasing the phone signs one out of > > iCloud, anyway? > > > > Second, in regards to turning off the iPhones without the home button, I > > know Apple talks about holding in one of the volume buttons and the side > > button for a few seconds. But being afraid of calling 911 by mistake, I've > > always pressed the volume up button and released it, pressed the volume > > down button and released it, then pressed the side button and released it > > and I have gotten the dialog to shut down the phone. I know Apple gives > > these instructions for force restarting the phone, but one needs to hold > > down the side button quite a bit longer for this. Anyway, by turning the > > phone off the way I am, what am I doing, and does it harm the phone in any > > way? > > > > - > > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > > list.. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > > mk...@ucla.edu. 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