Hi Alan, Another good observation so this method for powering off the phone is clearly better than holding volume button and side button at the same time since by doing so one after each other you don't get all the other stuff like Medical Id and Emergency Call. However, that weird Location.Radiowave button still showed up for me on that screen.
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: November 21, 2021 8:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone Hi Vicky, I also get a power off button at the top of the screen when pressing and releasing volume up, pressing and releasing volume down, then holding down the side power button for a couple of seconds. Only power off and cancel are on the screen with this method. If the side power button is held down for several seconds with this method, the phone does a hard reset. This is on my iPhone 13 Mini. I'm curious why your iPhone 12 Mini is in a drawer. You really didn't explain what the problem is with it. I love my 13 Mini. Alan Lemly -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Vicky Collins Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2021 10:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone First, your description of the screen after pressing the volume down and side button was great, and thanks so much for it. I actually will use that method for turning off the phone from now on. But second, although I won't use it anymore, when checking again just now, I sure did get a power off screen where I could either power off or cancel if I pressed the volume up button and released it, pressed the volume down button and released it, and then pressed the side button for a second or two and released it. Sometimes it even said power off before I could release the button so I knew that screen had come up. However, if when following the above procedure I held down the side button for about ten seconds and then released it, the phone did indeed restart. Oh, this is on my XR running iOS 15.1. I had originally purchased this phone used off one of the blindness buy and sell lists and was planning to give it to a family member but just kept it when that particular person had already purchased an iPhone SE 2020 on their own. Thus since I now have this phone and a couple of older ones I'm using to see how long it will take for their batteries to run down, my poor 12 Mini is still in the drawer where I put it in its box when I ordered it on the first day Apple started taking orders for it. My first generation iPhone SE now shows its maximum capacity at 57 percent but still supporting normal peak performance. And while the battery might last a few hours on standby, things like web surfing or TV watching will often, but not always, cause the battery to run down within an hour, and it never lasts more than two hours doing those kinds of things. In fact, the battery for that phone is pretty much completely unpredictable as to just how long it will last, sometimes showing 100 percent after charging overnight and then going down to zero and just shutting off if I perform an action such as going a couple of layers into the settings. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" <viphone@googlegroups.com> Date: Sunday, November 21, 2021 2:10 pm Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone > > > When you do what you describe you are not actually turning off the phone, you > are restarting it. > If you want to turn it off and you don't want to use the buttons, you can go > to Settings > General > Shutdown and double tap. > This also brings up the same menu as holding down say Volume Down and thew > Side button, focus is most likely on Power Off, but just make sure of it > because as I said, it's the same menu and it also includes the emergency call > buton. > Anyways, if you simultaneously press and hold volume down and the side > button until the menu comes up, the only way you call emergency services > would be if focus is on that button and you double tap without tchecking. > I always swipe left until I get to the Power Off button and if it seems I am > on Power Off already I may even swipe right once and back to the left to make > sure. The screen when this menu comes up is laid out as follows: > > At the very top you still have the status bar with the time, your cell > signal, Wi-Fi and battery status on the right Just underneath that is where > it says "Double Tap to the Power Off" button, for a sighted person it > actually says "Slide to Power off" because instead of double tapping they do > a left to right swipe. > After this there is now something I realize I never heard before, it says > literally the following "location.fill.radiowaves.left.and.right iPhone > Findable After Power Off his Forward" > I tapped on that to see what it would do and the following message pops up on > the screen: > iPhone remains findable after power off. > Find My helps you located this iPhone when it is lost or stolen even after > power off. > The location is visible in Find My on your other devices and to people in > family sharing you share location with. > You can temporarily turn off Find My network and it will resume when this > iPhone is powered on again. > Then there is an OK button. > What I don't know is whether tapping on this turns off the Find My after > power off because the only thing you can do when you see the above message is > tap the OK button and this takes you right back to the same Power Off screen, > but this weird sounding and not very descriptive button is not read any > differently by Voiceover. I will write to Apple Accessibility and ask for > clarification regarding this. > OK, back to the Power Off screen description: > > If you swipe right again you now come to the "Medical Id" button > Another swipe right takes you to the "Emergency Call" button If you > explore the screen instead of swiping right you will find that there is a bit > of a gap between the first two buttons and these two which are pretty much > right in the middle of the screen. > > Lastly, if you swipe right again from the Emergency Call button, you find a > "Cancel" button and as the name implies, if you double tap here it will again > close this screen and take you back to wherever you were before. > That button is again after a gap and it's located near the bottom of the > screen. > All these buttons go right across most of the screen from left to right, i.e. > you can touch your screen near the left side and drag your finger down and > find them or you can touch the screen near the top on the right side or in > the middle. > > You really shouldn't be that afraid, you are much more likely to accidently > call emergency services if you press the side button too many times > repeatedly, just pressing and holding a volume button and the side button > won't do that if you are careful not to double tap afterwards without making > sure you are not on the emergency call button. > > > Best regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Vicky Collins > Sent: November 21, 2021 6:31 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone > > First, when reading the instructions for selling or giving away or whatever > an old iPhone, before erasing the iPhone, one is also advised to sign out of > iCloud, and I was wondering why since erasing the phone signs one out of > iCloud, anyway? > > Second, in regards to turning off the iPhones without the home button, I know > Apple talks about holding in one of the volume buttons and the side button > for a few seconds. But being afraid of calling 911 by mistake, I've always > pressed the volume up button and released it, pressed the volume down button > and released it, then pressed the side button and released it and I have > gotten the dialog to shut down the phone. I know Apple gives these > instructions for force restarting the phone, but one needs to hold down the > side button quite a bit longer for this. Anyway, by turning the phone off the > way I am, what am I doing, and does it harm the phone in any way? > > - > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. 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