Kevin, that’s my understanding as well.  If you have ever called a talk show 
and they put u on hold, you will typically hear that what is coming from your 
radio is delayed a few seconds from what you hear through your headset.  Seems 
like the delay happened shortly after janet jackson’s wardrobe malfunction 
during the superbowl some years back.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

 

Hi.

 

I remember going to a college basketball game a few years ago. I thought it 
would be nice to take a radio with me to keep up with the action. It didn’t 
work. There was about a fifteen second delay between the action and what was 
heard on commercial radio. I wasn’t sure why, but this wasn’t an internet 
stream. I heard the possible reason why this was done, and it’s to protect the 
network from the FCC. If some unwanted words were said, with the way things 
are, it can be bleeped out, thanks to that delay. It’s why there’s a few second 
delay with talk shows.

 

This is what I remember hearing.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

 

An Explanation For the Delay In Radio Streaming

*       Link to the source is at the end.
*        

We are going to try to explain the delay experienced in internet radio 
streaming. The audio can be up to five minutes behind what comes out of the 
original streaming source. For example, I hear the audio on my monitor speakers 
in my home radio studio. I turn on a mobile device, internet radio or Bose Wave 
radio in another room and the audio is about a minute or two or three behind 
what's coming from the studio audio source. We will try to explain a reason 
why. The following information was obtained from Quora.com.

The most noticeable difference between a radio station's broadcast signal and 
its corresponding Internet stream or Internet only radio stations is a 
significant delay. The same program is likely to come out of your computer 
speakers as much as five minutes later than it comes out of your radio. 
Surprisingly, technology accounts for only about 5% of the lag. The other 95% 
is a result of arguments over paychecks. (Disclaimer: those numbers were 
entirely made up.)

LATENCY: a billion little traffic jams

When I play a song on my radio station, it zooms out to every nearby radio at 
the speed of light. But online, delivery is restricted to the speed of Internet 
— a relatively pokey journey that starts when my song gets converted into a 
package of networthy digits. That conversion takes a fraction of a second. 
Before it gets to your iPad, my song will pass through scores of other network 
devices that each hold it for additional fractions of seconds. And those tiny 
delays start to pile up.

My favorite demonstration for guests: I can talk into my studio mic, which is 
live on the radio — then turn on an Internet feed and hear what I just said 
sixty seconds earlier. In that amount of time, my radio voice has gone halfway 
to Mars, while my Internet voice has only made a round-trip to Cincinnati by 
way of Mountain View.

The world's most expensive machine is slower than light, and slightly faster 
than yelling.

UNIONS: pay or don’t play

The biggest source of audio delay has nothing to do with technology, and 
everything to do with paychecks. Traditionally, when actors were hired to be in 
a commercial, the amount of money they got paid was roughly proportional to the 
number of people the commercial was expected to reach. Small towns paid small 
fees; national ad campaigns had big budgets and paid the fattest fees. 
Voiceover artists and their agents dreamed of working up to big juicy global 
endorsements.

Around the turn of the century, these actors had a wake-up call. Radio stations 
were starting to put their shows on the Internet. Commercials that had been 
created for single mid-sized cities were suddenly being played across the 
country. But the actors weren't getting the big national-spot fees their union 
had negotiated! Contracts were being violated. Lawsuits were threatened.

And radio stations knew they had a losing hand in this game. The law said that 
the union performers were owed much more money if their voices were broadly 
distributed. And where would that money come from? No station had yet figured 
out how to make a dime out of streaming radio.

The solution was one software upgrade away. Stations were already using 
computers to control playback of their audio. Developers created a feature that 
split the programming into two or more feeds. One would go to the broadcast 
transmitter, as always. The others would go to the Internet. And this new 
software could block the commercials that were being played on the radio 
station, instantly substituting different audio.

SO THERE'S ROOM TO PLAY MORE MUSIC? Uh, no.

Problem solved. Ads created by SAG-AFTRA union members stayed exclusively on 
the radio, as before. As for the empty space left behind by the vanishing 
commercials, someone suggested that it could be filled with more music. 
Internet listeners would love it, this person said, and that might help this 
new service catch on and become big.

That person was promptly fired.

Station owners realized that they could replace the legally questionable 
commercials with other commercials. They could sell these online commercials 
and create an entirely new stream of revenue that might have unlimited growth 
potential. Because if there's anything consumers love, it's more commercials.

AND JUST HOW DOES THIS ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION?

Oh, right. The differences between broadcast and Internet streams. Well, in 
practice, it shakes out like this:



*        The Internet commercial breaks are always longer than the broadcast 
radio breaks. It's basic math. The online commercial break can never be shorter 
than the broadcast commercial break. You don't want to jump back to regular 
programming before the regular program is there. But your Internet commercial 
break CAN run longer. Listeners won't miss anything. The program gets stored in 
a delay buffer, so it will pick up right where it should, even if your internet 
commercials ran twenty seconds too long. (Or if you snuck in one or two extra 
commercials, for more of that free profit.) At each break, the Internet version 
of your program slips a little further behind the broadcast version. 

 

From: 

https://www.edgewatergoldradio.com/blank-1/2018/07/22/An-Explanation-For-the-Delay-In-Radio-Streaming

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com

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