Steve, TuneIn will allow pre-season coverage of the NFL just like in past years. However, when the regular season begins, TuneIn's coverage ends. I suggest to everyone on this continuing thread that the easiest way to listen to the NFL will be through SiriusXM. They truly take all the guess work out of live coverage, especially with the Playrrx APP which allows for easy set-up of favorite teams and channels.
Peace & Blessings, Pastor Duane L. Steele Phone (276) 730-5194 > On Aug 12, 2022, at 8:07 AM, 'Cook, Steve' via VIPhone > <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > I was able to listen to Thursday nights preseason games through the Tune In > Radio app and I am not subscribed, I only have the free version. > > Steve Cook, CPM > SC Commission for the Blind > Assistive Technology Consultant > Newsline Administrator > 1430 Confederate Avenue > Columbia, SC 29201 > Office: (803) 898-8788 > Cell: (803) 908-3856 > E-Mail: steve.c...@sccb.sc.gov > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 8:46 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: [External] RE: NFL audio on the iPhone > > You’re right. Since I’m already subscribed to the $5 a month package, I can’t > bring up the page I looked at when I subscribed, but now when I click on the > subscribe button, it just gives me the option to upgrade to NFL Plus Premium, > and there it’s pretty clear that you need Premium to listen to replays of > games, and you’re right, that’s $10 a month. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Outlook > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 7:11 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone > > Did I understand that the NFL plus package that allows rewatching games etc. > is $9.99 but the basic plan is the $4.99 plan? > I'm personally sticking with SiriusXM at least through my free trial that > ends November 4. > > > > > > Richard > “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little > consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > > On Aug 11, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > > OK, I signed up for the NFL Plus free trial, and things worked pretty much as > they did the season before last season. Here’s what I did: > I brought up the NFL app. > I had to go into the Scores tab to get a game started. I couldn’t figure out > how to do this from the NFL Plus tab. > In the Scores tab, I double tapped on the game I was interested in. In this > case, it was the Giants at Patriots. > I then had to double tap on the Watch tab. > Here I could double tap on the home broadcast, which was the Patriots, or I > could double tap on the listen live options, where I could double tap on the > away feed. > At this point the broadcast comes up, but you won’t hear anything because the > audio volume is set to 0. I unmuted the audio by hitting the volume up button. > Now you can listen to the game but the player is totally inaccessible, so > there’s no way to play/pause or fast forward/rewind. > > Like I said, this was pretty much how things worked the season before last. > Last season, the problem was that the volume buttons wouldn’t unmute the > audio, so there was no way for me to listen to the game unless I had a > sighted person around who could tap on the unmute button in the inaccessible > player. > > SiriusXM is a much more enjoyable way to listen to a game, but it is $12 > instead of $5 a month. I did see the option in the Watch tab to relisten to a > game, but I haven’t tried that yet! > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Outlook > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis > Long > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 6:08 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone > > Some ballparks and Arena’s don’t have this problem. I used to go to Phillies > baseball games. They had that problem until I called and explained that I > couldn’t enjoy the game and asked them if they could modify it when your in > the park that there is no delay. After a few years they called me back and > said they fixed the problem. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kevin > Minor > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 2:08 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone > > Hi. > > I remember going to a college basketball game a few years ago. I thought it > would be nice to take a radio with me to keep up with the action. It didn’t > work. There was about a fifteen second delay between the action and what was > heard on commercial radio. I wasn’t sure why, but this wasn’t an internet > stream. I heard the possible reason why this was done, and it’s to protect > the network from the FCC. If some unwanted words were said, with the way > things are, it can be bleeped out, thanks to that delay. It’s why there’s a > few second delay with talk shows. > > This is what I remember hearing. > > Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard. > > Kevin, Valerie and Jilly > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 1:05 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone > > An Explanation For the Delay In Radio Streaming > Link to the source is at the end. > > We are going to try to explain the delay experienced in internet radio > streaming. The audio can be up to five minutes behind what comes out of the > original streaming source. For example, I hear the audio on my monitor > speakers in my home radio studio. I turn on a mobile device, internet radio > or Bose Wave radio in another room and the audio is about a minute or two or > three behind what's coming from the studio audio source. We will try to > explain a reason why. The following information was obtained from Quora.com. > The most noticeable difference between a radio station's broadcast signal and > its corresponding Internet stream or Internet only radio stations is a > significant delay. The same program is likely to come out of your computer > speakers as much as five minutes later than it comes out of your radio. > Surprisingly, technology accounts for only about 5% of the lag. The other 95% > is a result of arguments over paychecks. (Disclaimer: those numbers were > entirely made up.) > LATENCY: a billion little traffic jams > When I play a song on my radio station, it zooms out to every nearby radio at > the speed of light. But online, delivery is restricted to the speed of > Internet — a relatively pokey journey that starts when my song gets converted > into a package of networthy digits. That conversion takes a fraction of a > second. Before it gets to your iPad, my song will pass through scores of > other network devices that each hold it for additional fractions of seconds. > And those tiny delays start to pile up. > My favorite demonstration for guests: I can talk into my studio mic, which is > live on the radio — then turn on an Internet feed and hear what I just said > sixty seconds earlier. In that amount of time, my radio voice has gone > halfway to Mars, while my Internet voice has only made a round-trip to > Cincinnati by way of Mountain View. > The world's most expensive machine is slower than light, and slightly faster > than yelling. > UNIONS: pay or don’t play > The biggest source of audio delay has nothing to do with technology, and > everything to do with paychecks. Traditionally, when actors were hired to be > in a commercial, the amount of money they got paid was roughly proportional > to the number of people the commercial was expected to reach. Small towns > paid small fees; national ad campaigns had big budgets and paid the fattest > fees. Voiceover artists and their agents dreamed of working up to big juicy > global endorsements. > Around the turn of the century, these actors had a wake-up call. Radio > stations were starting to put their shows on the Internet. Commercials that > had been created for single mid-sized cities were suddenly being played > across the country. But the actors weren't getting the big national-spot fees > their union had negotiated! Contracts were being violated. Lawsuits were > threatened. > And radio stations knew they had a losing hand in this game. The law said > that the union performers were owed much more money if their voices were > broadly distributed. And where would that money come from? No station had yet > figured out how to make a dime out of streaming radio. > The solution was one software upgrade away. Stations were already using > computers to control playback of their audio. Developers created a feature > that split the programming into two or more feeds. One would go to the > broadcast transmitter, as always. The others would go to the Internet. And > this new software could block the commercials that were being played on the > radio station, instantly substituting different audio. > SO THERE'S ROOM TO PLAY MORE MUSIC? Uh, no. > Problem solved. Ads created by SAG-AFTRA union members stayed exclusively on > the radio, as before. As for the empty space left behind by the vanishing > commercials, someone suggested that it could be filled with more music. > Internet listeners would love it, this person said, and that might help this > new service catch on and become big. > That person was promptly fired. > Station owners realized that they could replace the legally questionable > commercials with other commercials. They could sell these online commercials > and create an entirely new stream of revenue that might have unlimited growth > potential. Because if there's anything consumers love, it's more commercials. > AND JUST HOW DOES THIS ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION? > Oh, right. The differences between broadcast and Internet streams. Well, in > practice, it shakes out like this: > <image001.jpg> > <image002.png> > 1. The Internet commercial breaks are always longer than the broadcast > radio breaks. It's basic math. The online commercial break can never be > shorter than the broadcast commercial break. You don't want to jump back to > regular programming before the regular program is there. But your Internet > commercial break CAN run longer. Listeners won't miss anything. The program > gets stored in a delay buffer, so it will pick up right where it should, even > if your internet commercials ran twenty seconds too long. (Or if you snuck in > one or two extra commercials, for more of that free profit.) At each break, > the Internet version of your program slips a little further behind the > broadcast version. > > > From: > https://www.edgewatergoldradio.com/blank-1/2018/07/22/An-Explanation-For-the-Delay-In-Radio-Streaming > > > > Richard > “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought > which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > 🦅 > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. 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