Feedback might help to ensure Apple includes this on all devices as they get the new chip, and I am always pro feedback, but I agree with Sieghard, that feedback won't help if this is hardware dependent, which it seems to be.
-- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup I doubt it requires feedback to Apple, obviously the fact they included it now means they have already listened to the feedback and if it in fact is only on the iPhone 14 Pro with the A16 chip then it is clearly a hardware requirement and as soon as the next generation of iPhone comes out in a year when other phones get the A16 chip and most likely the next new Pro phones get the A17 it will be a feature available on all phones and iPads. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup The only way it will role down to older phones is to submit feedback to either apple accessibility apple.com/feedback Or if you’re a beta tester submit feedback through the feedback app. I did that. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup I agree. It would be nice to have haptic feedback or the chime. I use the evo10 daisy player. When I turn the player on, I have a choice, of a chime, vibration, or bothe chime and vibration. I have my player set to the vibration because the start up chime is rather louder then it really needs to be. This is all very interesting. Apple keeps rolling out some really cool stuff. On 9/8/22, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote: > I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert > that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects > to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming > online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been > more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I > can continue to do so. LOL > > Scott > > On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I was wondering that myself. Would the sound chime as soon as you >> hit your power button, or take a little time. Some very interesting >> things coming out in the apple world these days. >> >> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose <b...@benmr.com> wrote: >>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound >>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound >>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering >>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle >>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS >>> install. >>> >>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but >>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive >>> models over the years. >>> >>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip. Darn. >>>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to >>>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone. If only I'd waited for >>>> the iPhone 14 pro max. >>>> >>>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>>>> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be >>>>> part of the >>>>> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 >>>>> Mini and >>>>> 13 Pro/Pro Max. >>>>> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip. >>>>> >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On >>>>> Behalf Of CHELA Robles >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will >>>>> Have a New Chime During Startup >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> From: David Goldfield >>>>> <david.goldfi...@outlook.com<mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>> >>>>> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT >>>>> To: Tech-VI Announcement List >>>>> <tech...@groups.io<mailto:tech...@groups.io>> >>>>> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a >>>>> New Chime During Startup >>>>> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io<mailto:tech...@groups.io> >>>>> >>>>> From the Tech-VI list owner: >>>>> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play >>>>> a chime during the boot process. 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