If the police had come you could have just told them your kid having a nightmare was a real emergency and now that they are here could they please deal with it.
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of R Van Lant Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup I must have magical powers I have accidentally called 911 twice. The first time I think I was holding my phone as we crossed a parking lot and got into the car. Suddenly I heard this alarm and 911 came on the line. Freaked me out, so I called Apple accessibility to find out how I had done it. I thought we had turned off the feature, but then one night while dealing with a kid having a nightmare and trying to check the time on my phone, I again accidentally called 911. I did not hear a countdown or warning with the second time. It would have been really stressful if the police had showed up at my door in the middle of the night trying to figure out if I was OK. So, there just must be something with the way I grab my phone where I end up pressing the side button and volume down button at the same time. Robin -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 11:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup There are two ways to call emergency services with the side button and both of these methods can be disabled in Settings > Emergency SOS: 1. Call with Hold, the explanation reads: Press and hold the side button and either volume button to make an emergency call. In certain regions you may need to specify an emergency service to dial. Auto call requires a SIM card. If you swipe right you then have the "Call with Hold" button which will either say On or Off and you can double tap on it to toggle it. If you swipe right again there is a further explanation: If you press and hold the side button and volume buttons the emergency SOS slider appears. If you continue to hold them a countdown begins and an alert sounds. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services. 2. Call with 5 presses Rapidly pressing the side button 5 times starts a countdown and sounds an alert. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services. I personally have the press and hold option turned on since it is very difficult to accidently press and hold either volume up or volume down along with the side button. Taking a screenshot requires you to also press volume up and the side button, but you simply press and release and I have never even come close to triggering the emergency SOS. Also, keep in mind that as long as you don't panic you can still cancel the emergency call, I believe the countdown lasts 5 minutes and there is a cancel button which allows you to stop it before the call. Pressing the side button 5 times can be a bit easier to do accidently since most people set up the side button to turn Voiceover on or off with a triple press. If somebody maybe has some motor difficulties I could see how they may press the button 5 times instead of 3 times. As for using the side button by itself to invoke SIRI is not a problem and there is no way you can call emergency services this way. In the same way there really is no way you can make an emergency call if you press the buttons to power off your phone because you press them in sequence and not together: first press and release volume up, then press and release volume down and then press and hold the side button for just a moment until Voiceover says "Power off button". There used to be a button on that same screen which allowed you to also call Emergency Services, but it's been removed in a recent iOS update and now all you have on that screen is Power Off, a button with a funny Voiceover label which says something about "Location fill radio waves left and right" and it has to do with whether your iPhone can be found with Find My after it has been powered off and lastly there is a cancel button. If you are still worried you can always bring up the Power Off menu by going to Settings > General > Shutdown, it does the same thing as pressing volume up, volume down and the side button. You have to press the side button 5 times quickly in order to bring up emergency calling. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup This is helpful. I have always been afraid of messing with the side buttons, am afraid I will call 911, is there a way to deactivate the side buttons for emergency calls? -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:09 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup When I turn on my Asus Zenbook laptop I have absolutely no feedback until the Windows startup sound plays which is almost simultaneous to when Jaws starts speaking and it takes about 10 seconds from when I press the power button. The power button is just like any other button on the keyboard so once again, you press it and assume the laptop turns on which of course it does and then you get the startup sound and Jaws starts to speak at the logon screen. Now, here my iPhone 11: I press the side button (power button) and hold it for a 4 count and then let go. Then just as with my laptop I wait about 12 or 15 seconds (probably depends a bit on your phone) and then I hear a little jingle and Voiceover comes up and I am asked to enter my PIN. The difference: really none and not a process where you can do anything wrong. When I want to power off my iPhone I press volume up, volume down and then I press and hold the side button for just a second or so and Voiceover will say "Power Off button", I double tap on it and the phone shuts down. Once again I don't find there really is any margin for error, but if you really want to know when the phone has powered off completely (it takes about 10 seconds) just plug in a headset when you do this and a few seconds after you double tap on power off you will hear a distinctive little click sound in your headset and this means the phone is now fully off. If you are turning your phone off to reboot it, you can simply count to 20 after you tap on power off before you press and hold the side button for 4 seconds to power it up again. z -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 9:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup I agree, the lack of feedback when the phone is powering up drives me batty -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Scott Davert Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I can continue to do so. LOL Scott On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote: > I was wondering that myself. Would the sound chime as soon as you hit > your power button, or take a little time. Some very interesting > things coming out in the apple world these days. > > On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose <b...@benmr.com> wrote: >> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound >> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound >> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering >> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle >> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS >> install. >> >> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but >> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive >> models over the years. >> >> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip. Darn. >>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to >>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone. If only I'd waited for the >>> iPhone 14 pro max. >>> >>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>>> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be >>>> part of the >>>> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 >>>> Mini and >>>> 13 Pro/Pro Max. >>>> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip. >>>> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>> Of CHELA Robles >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will >>>> Have a New Chime During Startup >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> From: David Goldfield >>>> <david.goldfi...@outlook.com<mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>> >>>> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT >>>> To: Tech-VI Announcement List >>>> <tech...@groups.io<mailto:tech...@groups.io>> >>>> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a >>>> New Chime During Startup >>>> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io<mailto:tech...@groups.io> >>>> >>>> From the Tech-VI list owner: >>>> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play >>>> a chime during the boot process. This has been an option which many >>>> blind iPhone users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the >>>> entire article I am pasting just the relevant section below. If you >>>> go to the original source link you can hear what the new chime >>>> sounds like. Please note that on my PC the sound was a bit louder >>>> than expected. 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