Hello Gary,
I received the new Apple TV 4K today and while I didn't try to connect it yet directly to my Arc, I did try to connect my old Apple TV HD (4th generation) to my Sonos Amp. Here is what I got when I opened the Sonos app, selected Bedroom (where my Sonos Amp is located) and then I selected "TV": We detected an issue with your HDMI connection. We'll help you fix it. Fix it button Close button So I double tapped on "Fix It" and the following screen came up: Let's get your Sonos Amp connected to your TV Continue button I tapped on Continue and the next screen came up: Turn on your TV, then plug the HDMI cable into the ARC port. Then I had the following 3 options: Connected to ARC button Can't find ARC button Close button So I tapped on "Connected to ARC" and after it said "connecting" for a few seconds, the next message came up: HDMI ARC not detected. Make sure the HDMI cable is connected to the ARC port and your TV is on. Try Again button Close button No ARC port? You need to use an optical audio adapter. So apparently connecting an Apple TV directly to a Sonos device via HDMI simply won't work. One could argue that this is silly, but then again let's remember how extremely specialized this is to the visually impaired/blind customer base since I just can't see any sighted person at all wanting to do this. If they did and it actually worked they would have to use Voiceover in order to navigate their Apple TV and I really can't imagine a sighted person wanting to do this. In any case, all the music services are pretty much available directly through the Sonos app and when it comes to "listening" to TV audio I don't have to point out how pointless that would seem to sighted people. If you did have or buy a Sonos Amp then you would have an optical audio input available and I assume if you had an "optical audio converter" as the Sonos app suggests, you would probably be successful in getting audio from the Apple TV into your Sonos system. I don't want it bad enough to go out there and buy an optical audio adapter to try it, but in any case, since the Sonos Beam only has an HDMI input that really wouldn't be an option. I may at some point unplug the new Apple TV from my LG OLED TV and plug it directly into the Arc to see if I get the same message. But I am pretty sure I would and I don't have a lot of time until at least the beginning of the new year so it won't be any time soon. I guess if you really wanted to listen to Netflix, Disney, Prime Video or other TV channels on your Sonos Beam then you could always splay the content on your iPhone and then send it to the Beam via Airplay. Best regards and good luck, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results Well I picked up a SONOS Beam 2 last week and connected it to my APPLE TV 4K latest version. I set up the Beam and plugged it into the EARC port on my LG TV and it worked ok. I switched everything off and re-plugged the Beam into the HDMI port on the APPLE TV using the SONOS cable which they confirmed supported EARC etc. The results - nothing! I couldn't get a sound out of the APPLE TV, needless to say as soon as I re-plugged it into the back of my LG TV it came alive with Voiceover etc so the APPLE TV was working fine. I have been doing some GOOGling around and found an APPLE support article which seemed to suggest that you could plug the APPLE TV into a sound bar to get DOLBY Audio sound. When I had the APPLE TV plugged into the LG I had a look around the settings under video/sound but couldn't find any reference to immersive audio or DOLBY Audio. The article suggested that if this was the case your surround equipment settings needed checking. Presumably in this case this means the BEAM. Any suggestions? Thanks Gary On 20/11/2022 22:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Yes, it would work because that is what receivers are made for just as HDMI > inputs on TV's are made for this. > Anyways, I have a feeling with the secondor third generation Apple TV 4K you > will be able to plug it straight into a Sonos Beam or Arc, but hopefully Gary > will report back once he has picked up his Beam and tried it. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Kelly Ford > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:43 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen? > > Hi, > > For what it is worth, I do have my Apple TV plugged into the HDMI port of my > receiver. This is a Marantz receiver. This works fine with the Apple device > and does not require my TV to be connected or on for the Apple device to > work. The Apple device is the newest 4K unit. > > >> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone >> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some >> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version >> which arrived last week. >> >> I was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and >> the speed of the box, I gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% >> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a >> sound only system. >> >> I intend to pick up a Sonos beam as there are some good deals this Black >> Friday and will report back on what happens. >> >> >> Gary >> >> >> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have >>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the >>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, >>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these >>> gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, >>> hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has >>> and see if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund >>> or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it >>> work. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf >>> Of Matthew Bullis >>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen? >>> >>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You >>> connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your >>> audio out through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or >>> gaming consoles don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have >>> them for some external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item: >>> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... >>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share >>> Matthew >>> >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen >>> <talk2o...@gmail.com<mailto:talk2o...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. >>> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not >>> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out >>> differently, please let me know. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner >>>> <richardr_tur...@comcast.net<mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930 >>>> >>>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just >>>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly. >>>> >>>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our >>>> Smart TV in our living room... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard, USA. >>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >>>> with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in >>>> the Universe >>>> >>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone >>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen? >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into >>>> a soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a tv and >>>> thence to a soundbar? >>>> >>>> I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't >>>> want a full sized TV screen as I can't see it anyway. >>>> >>>> I am suspicious that the Apple TV box will complain because it can't see a >>>> display device.. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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