That would be my choice, James, if I were getting a treadmill, one that is 
manual without a motor. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2024 11:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

I have decided that I am most interested in a manual treadmill without a motor.

But, thanks to all who posted information about the walking pads.

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
blazie.g...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2024 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

The ones that I have seen were made to be under the desk and you walk on it 
while sitting down.  Maybe these were a bit different than what Mark is talking 
about.  There are under-the-desk bikes too.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 3:48 PM
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Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

The entire concept sounds half baked and actually dangerous to me.

 

James B 

 

 

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<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
janet gross
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Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Hi James and All, 

Maybe if we stay close to a wall, we can reach out our hand to feel the wall 
just to be for sure where we are.  

That is all I can think of right now, and I’m not sure if that is right or not. 
 

 

Janet   

 

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James Bentley
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Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or jogging 
if there are not any handles.

 

James B 

 

 

From: M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
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Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Hello Everyone,

 

With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.

 

I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered 
a model that you find interesting, let us know.

 

One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I 
intend to use the unit.

 

Mark

 

 

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<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PM
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Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other 
tasks. Having it under the desk means you can pull it out slightly to use, but 
you still can touch the desk while walking to stay oriented.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com <mailto:tai.toma...@gmail.com> 

Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

 

        On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard <richard.pe...@earthlink.net 
<mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

        Good question.
        
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Pads
        
        If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to 
stay on the pad?
        
        James B 
        
        
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Pads
        
        Mark and all,
        
        I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were 
priced from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and 
one producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
adjustable incline features.
        
        A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those 
that send data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are 
there any that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad 
used a remote control. I'm not sure about others.
        
        I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so 
will appreciate any help about their accessibility..
        
        
        Richard Petty
        richard.pe...@earthlink.net <mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net> 
        
        
        
        
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        Hello All,
        
        1.
        Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, 
for the first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to 
discover that they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using 
the Find My app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my 
battery a little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true 
because, during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen 
brightness was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the 
phone's display, out in the sunlight.
        
        2.
        Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series 
to her recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my 
Apple TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is 
enabled.
        
        3.
        One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
        Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
        Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of 
them require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular 
that, during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly 
endless models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices 
including several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in 
order to achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to 
purchase one of these walking pads.  For the record, although I thoroughly 
enjoyed my commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in proper order 
takes a great deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to maintain them by 
hand, as I did) or a great deal of money if one elects to have them serviced on 
a regular basis.  One feature that I would like to have on my new walking pad 
is the ability to have all of the exercise statistics sent to the Apple Health 
app.  So far, I have not found one that claims to do this.  At least, I have 
not found one less than 1000 USD that has this feature.  So, if you are using a 
walking pad or you discover one that has a smart app feature, let me know.  
Thank you.
        
        4.
        In my home office, I have an Apple TV that was connected to a 14 year 
old 21 inch television.  For the past couple of years, because of various 
reasons that are not relative to this topic, the active scan feature of Apple 
TV did not work with the set.  Basically, this means that the edges of the 
Apple TV display went beyond the edge of the television's visible area.  Not a 
big deal as I only use this set once or twice a year and when doing so, I 
mostly listened to the content, rather than watched it.  Still, I have been 
passively searching for a small form factor television to replace the old one.  
In my experience, it has been almost impossible to locate a new, modern 
technology television, that is smaller than 24 inches.  I had almost given up 
when, in my local Best Buy store, a couple of days ago, we spotted an area of 
the store filled with Insignia branded televisions.  Insignia is Best Buy's 
house brand.  Guess what?  They have and I purchased a 19 inch model for 49 
USD, before tax.  The biggest surprised? when I powered on the unit for the 
first time, a screen reader asked if I wanted to leave the screen reader on or 
turn it off.  This is a marvelous little set that offers anything you could 
want in a television; including a built-in screen reader.
        So, if you're in the market for a tiny TV that works beautifully with 
Apple TV, give the Insignia models a try.
        
        Okay, I think that's all for now.
        
        I hope you are all doing well and I look forward to any and all replies.
        
        Mark
        
        
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