I had no problem either. I held my own phone and just did the motions with my 
head very slowly. I have a 16 pro.
Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Nov 28, 2024, at 10:39 AM, Carolyn Arnold <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Actually, I think that holding the phone makes a difference, since the 
> Wal-Mart guy could not do mine, but I, an old totally blind woman had no 
> trouble with two different phones.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2024 1:44 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Facial recognition on new 16 pro
> 
> I am not 100% certain, but say 99.9% that Face Id including setting up Face 
> Id does not require an internet connection.
> 
> My question would be whether Joe is holding the phone while he is doing this 
> or if anybody else is holding it for him.
> 
> I also don’t think the cosmetic state of his eyes makes a difference, when 
> you first set up Face Id it scans your face and it scans it as is and then 
> compares and reccognizes. The fact that his wife can complete the Face Id 
> setup would seem to indicate that there is nothing wrong with the phone and 
> in any case it would be I think almost impossible that 2 new iPhone 16 Pro 
> phones would have the same issue.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2024 2:59 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Facial recognition on new 16 pro
> 
> 
> 
> Themessage that face recognition is not available tells me there may be an 
> internet connectivity issue.
> 
> Try turning wi-fi from, then on again and let it reconnect.
> 
> So long as you are doing the head movements correctly, it should work.
> 
> Maybe even try it with your eyes closed? Doing it with VoiceOer on is the 
> best because you get feedbac and it turns off require attention.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> 
> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley
> 
> 
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    On Nov 27, 2024, at 2:18 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
>    
> 
>    Hi list,
> 
>    
> 
>    I bought a 16 pro at the end of October and never got the hang of facial 
> recognition. So about a week  ago I decided I would figure out what was 
> wrong. I   had Apple Accessibility help me set it up and we couldn’t get it 
> to work, even with my sighted wife’s help. They then sent me to a local Best 
> Buy because the closest Apple Store is 160 miles south of here. Still no 
> success and all the diagnosis and reset as new indicated the phone was fine. 
> After calling Apple Accessibility again they sent me a new phone. We got the 
> new phone this morning.
> 
>    
> 
>    We set it all up again, updated the software to 18.1.1. It still won’t 
> complete the facial recognition. The error message is facial recognition is 
> not available at this time. Try again later. It will recognize my wife’s 
> face, but will not recognize mine with or without voiceover on, with or 
> without attention on. So that is a long way of asking is it because my eyes 
> are abnormal it won’t work? I have one artificial eye and one scarred and 
> clouded over. My wife says when she watches the process the camera appears to 
> be trying to focus. She says my picture in the square gets blurry then clears 
> like it is trying to focus on something even though I’m right in the middle 
> of the square.
> 
>    
> 
>    I had a SE before. I know that a lot of people are using facial 
> recognition. So what is the big secret?
> 
>    
> 
>    Thanks for any help,
> 
>    Joe
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