Hi,

I doubt it very much.  They would just be duplicating the efforts of Talkback 
already found in Android.

Ricardo Walker
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On Feb 23, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Philip S <philso1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just curious, is it possible that Samsung is thinking about capturing
> some of the blind/visually impaired consumer smartphone market from
> Apple, albeit in a very nasty and unwise way?
> Does anyone know if Samsung is working on some major smartphone
> accessibility project?
> 
> 
> On 2/23/13, Aman Singer <aman.sin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi.
>> The patent does not simply apply to the home button, at least as
>> originally submitted. Despite that, I would say that any reaction at
>> the moment is a bit overblown, after all, the court did stay the
>> action on this patent for now with a plain hint that the ruling in the
>> federal court was likely to turn out badly for Samsung. In any case,
>> from reading the patent
>> (the US version of the patent, anyway, I don't read German, the patent
>> seems to have other issues, it is very wide and I know of two products
>> which did this even before the Korean patent which the American and
>> German patents are based on was issued back in 1999. Samsung has
>> already narrowed the patent significantly, but according to the judge,
>> eeven the narrowed patent is unlikely to succeed. I haven't seen the
>> narrowed patent description, and don't know where it can be found
>> online if it can be found at all. The US patent is at
>> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6937700.PN.&OS=PN/6937700&RS=PN/6937700
>> The german patent, for those of us who know that language, is at
>> http://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/pat/PatSchrifteneinsicht?docId=DE000010040386B4&page=1&dpi=150&lang=de
>> and a blogger's description of the stay and reasons for it is at
>> http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html
>> The blogger, Florian Mueller, has a bunch of interesting links with
>> his own views about the case and seems to link to source documents
>> when he can, which is great. I got the links I pasted in above from
>> his site. Personally, I suspect this is unimportant, I would be
>> surprised if Samsung's patent was upheld, if Apple were found to have
>> infringed it and, even if those two astonishing things come to pass,
>> if Samsung and Apple don't work something out as a licensing
>> arrangement. Remember that this is all part of a much larger situation
>> which is worldwide and which is about many other patents/issues.
>> Aman
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/23/13, Robert Fenton <robert.fen...@samobile.net> wrote:
>>> The article that was quoted here was originally published by the BBC.
>>> However, several of the financial and technology publications have also
>>> picked this up. There's no question that the thoughts behind the article
>>> are
>>> legitimate.
>>> 
>>> Bob Fenton
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2013-02-23, at 12:51 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I do not know. I received the message from another list. I'm sure if you
>>>> do a google search, you will be able to find the publication.
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 24/02/2013, at 2:30, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> David, what is the source of this article?  For whom does Leo Kelion
>>>>> write?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Craig
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/23/13, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Subject: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung
>>>>>>> Reply-To: Blind Democracy Discussion List
>>>>>>> <blind-democr...@octothorp.org>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Even if Samsung does not succeed in their action, the very fact
>>>>>>> they've
>>>>>>> even tried it guarantees I will never buy a Samsung product.
>>>>>>> And to think Samsung was instrumental in establishing the guide dog
>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>> in Korea.
>>>>>>> Unconscionable.
>>>>>>> Alice
>>>>>>> Samsun    g struggles to block iPhone function for the blindBy Leo
>>>>>>> Kelion
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Technology reporter
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The VoiceOver function is designed to help
>>>>>>> blind and partially sighted consumers use the
>>>>>>> iPhone Samsung has suffered a setback in its
>>>>>>> effort to win an iPhone ban based on a function
>>>>>>> making its software accessible to blind people.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The South Korean firm had sought an injunction in
>>>>>>> a German court arguing Apple's VoiceOver
>>>>>>> screen-access facility infringed one of its patents.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> However, the judge has ordered the case to be
>>>>>>> suspended pending another ruling that could invalidate Samsung's
>>>>>>> claim.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Disability campaigners had expressed concern about the case.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apple's VoiceOver function is used by blind and
>>>>>>> partially-sighted people to hear a description of
>>>>>>> what the iPhone is showing by touching its screen.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The software covers text and icons including
>>>>>>> audio descriptions of the battery level and
>>>>>>> network signal. It also allows the phones to be
>>>>>>> operated via Braille-based add-ons.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Samsung had argued that Apple had failed to
>>>>>>> licence a patent it owned which describes
>>>>>>> pressing a button to make a handset describe its
>>>>>>> display. The basis for this was that VoiceOver
>>>>>>> could be switched on by triple-clicking the iPhone's home button.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apple declined to comment.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A statement from Samsung said: "For decades, we
>>>>>>> have heavily invested in pioneering the
>>>>>>> development of technological innovations in the
>>>>>>> mobile industry, which have been constantly reflected in our
>>>>>>> products.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "We continue to believe that Apple has infringed
>>>>>>> our patented mobile technologies, and we will
>>>>>>> continue to take the measures necessary to
>>>>>>> protect our intellectual property rights."
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 'Regrettable in the extreme'
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Patent consultant Florian Muller, who was first
>>>>>>> to report the Mannheim Court's decision, questioned Samsung's
>>>>>>> tactics.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "If Samsung had only requested monetary
>>>>>>> compensation in this action, it would have made a
>>>>>>> much better choice than by trying to achieve,
>>>>>>> through the pursuit of an injunction, the
>>>>>>> deactivation or (more realistically) degradation
>>>>>>> of the voiceover functionality Apple provides to
>>>>>>> its German customers," he wrote on his blog.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The British Computer Association of the Blind
>>>>>>> said it was worried such an important feature might be threatened.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "A lack of access to information is arguably the
>>>>>>> biggest potential barrier to inclusion in society
>>>>>>> for blind and partially-sighted people," a spokesman told the BBC.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "If something as important as access to telephone
>>>>>>> technology had been blocked by the actions of one
>>>>>>> company over another the consequences for blind
>>>>>>> people everywhere would be regrettable in the extreme."
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The Wall Street Journal's AllThingsD tech site was more damning.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "Leaving aside the ethics of asserting a patent
>>>>>>> against a feature designed to help the blind,
>>>>>>> this is unwise," wrote John Paczkowski.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "It's the PR equivalent of punching yourself in
>>>>>>> the face. Samsung has now identified itself as a
>>>>>>> company willing to accept the loss of
>>>>>>> accessibility for the vision-impaired as
>>>>>>> collateral damage in its battle with Apple."
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apple and Samsung have fought a number of patent
>>>>>>> cases against each other in courts across the world.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The biggest award involved a US jury ordering
>>>>>>> Samsung to pay Apple $1.05bn (£688m) in damages.
>>>>>>> The judge in the case later rejected Apple's call
>>>>>>> for the sum to be increased and a sales ban on some Samsung handsets.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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