Hi Irene.

I am glad that it is not only my display. Would you mind reporting that problem 
to human ware. I can only contact the local dealer here in Denmark. I am not 
allowed to contact human ware.

Best regards Annie.
On Mar 10, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Irene Elbourn at TAFN <ir...@tafn.org.uk> wrote:

> Hi Annie,
> 
> Myself and my husband, Tony, use a Braillant bi 32 - myself with an IPod
> Touch 4 and Tony with an IPhone 4S.  We have both experienced this problem
> several times, so it is not very likely to be a fault with your display
> 
> Irene
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Annie Skov Nielsen
> Sent: 10 March 2013 19:09
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using a Brailliant BI 40 with an iPhone/iPod.
> 
> Hi all.
> 
> I also have a brailliant bi 32 cells display. It is a great display, but I
> have 1 problem, that has not been mentioned, so I am a little afraid that it
> is my display.
> 
> Sometimes while writing or navigating, the display and my IPhone 5 loses
> connection, and it can be a little tricky to get it back again.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> On Mar 10, 2013, at 7:21 PM, Rollin Hippler <irie_10...@mindspring.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> At least with the Brailliant, for any field which is a list of values
> (adjustable) command-3 moves down the list and command-6 moves up the list.
> When not on an adjustable field, command 3 advances the focus to the next
> rotor position and command -6 does the opposite.  Command-2-3 selects the
> next rotor action and command-5-6 goesbackwardthrough the list.
>> 
>> One other helpful set of command keys is command-1-3 activates VoiceOver
> help and command-1-2 exits help.  When VoiceOver help is active, pressing
> any key(s) on the Brailliant describes what that function does.  The spoken
> text appears momentarily on the braille display, but it disappears quickly
> so it is difficult to read.
>> 
>> Hope this is helpful.
>> 
>> Rollin
>> On 3/9/2013 2:18 PM, anouk radix wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I also have a braillant bi40 and would like to be able to use my iphone
> wiwhtout speech.
>>> Some things that you can do to make the process more efficient if you
> want to just use braille:
>>> use the spotlight feature (hit cmd-h from the home screen) to search for
> the app that you need.
>>> If you want to search for text within an app, for example safari but
> really any hap doubletap the screen three times and you will get the item
> choser with an edit field, if you want to cancel the item choser you have to
> use the command that emulates the home button (cmd-h).
>>> I am still experimenting with selecting/cutting or copying text while
> using a braille display which i believe would be a lot more efficient, at
> least for me, then doing it by using the touch screen.
>>> Things that are difficult or that you cant do (to my knowledge) by just
> using the braille display):
>>> If you are using a word processor and you have to leave the app and then
> go back to it then the vo focus within the document will be lost. This is
> not limited to braille display though.
>>> Double tap and hold is one of the gestures already mentioned that you
> cannot do, to my knowledge.
>>> Also, if you have a table index and you want to doubletap and hold and
> move up and down i dont know how to do this on a braille display.
>>> Furthermore if you have lists that you need to change by swiping up and
> down (for example to change a value in the standard iphone alarm clock) i
> dont know if you can do this. I have several apps that make use of this
> gesture and now have to go to the touchscreen and turn the speech on.
>>> If anyone has any more tips/suggestions to make more effective use of 
>>> your iphone and just braille display  this would be greatly 
>>> appreciated
>>> 
>>> Op 09/03/2013 19:13, Mary Otten schreef:
>>>> Jim,
>>>> I also have a TBI32 that is paired with a 4S and with an iPad 1st gen.
> You can do most, but not all things with braille, unless I'm missing
> something. You can't, for example, do the double tap hold from a braille
> display. If you can, please somebody let me know how. Also, and I suppose
> obviously, if you need to pair or repair the display, you need to interact
> with the touch screen and hear the speech output to accomplish that task.
> And some things, like opening an app whose place you know on the touch
> screen are more efficient with touch than with the braille display, simply
> because you can go right to the app and double tap it. No sequential
> arrowing to get there. None of these things are specific to the TBI-32,
> which is, in my opinion, an excellent display that works quite well with the
> iPhone.
>>>> 
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> Mary Otten
>>>> motte...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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