Hi Anouk.  I would respond to your private e-mail address if it had been
provided, as my reply is concerning your "offtopic" query, so may not be
allowed on list.  I believe there are drivers available for linking the
Brailliant to JAWS.  I have not done this myself, so know nothing more.

Irene 

Irene

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of anouk radix
Sent: 11 March 2013 00:32
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using a Brailliant BI 40 with an iPhone/iPod.

Hi Kamal,
You have to do this via
settings/general/accessibility/voiceover/braille. It will tell you that
bluetooth has to be turned on and it will do so. Then you will, after a few
seconds see the braillant and yu will have to hit the pair button.
I am interested on how you can pair it with jaws on a windows machine though
since I have not gotten that to work yet but that is off-topic.
Greetings, Anouk,
Op 10/03/2013 21:29, Kamal Haffar schreef:
> Hi all:
> I can't seem to be able to pair my Brailliant bi 40 with my Iphone 4s. 
> I am able to pair it with my Windows PC using Jaws and Window Eyes.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> On 3/10/2013 4:13 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
>> Hi Irene.
>>
>> I am glad that it is not only my display. Would you mind reporting 
>> that problem to human ware. I can only contact the local dealer here 
>> in Denmark. I am not allowed to contact human ware.
>>
>> Best regards Annie.
>> On Mar 10, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Irene Elbourn at TAFN 
>> <ir...@tafn.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Annie,
>>>
>>> Myself and my husband, Tony, use a Braillant bi 32 - myself with an 
>>> IPod Touch 4 and Tony with an IPhone 4S.  We have both experienced 
>>> this problem several times, so it is not very likely to be a fault 
>>> with your display
>>>
>>> Irene
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen
>>> Sent: 10 March 2013 19:09
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Using a Brailliant BI 40 with an iPhone/iPod.
>>>
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> I also have a brailliant bi 32 cells display. It is a great display, 
>>> but I have 1 problem, that has not been mentioned, so I am a little 
>>> afraid that it is my display.
>>>
>>> Sometimes while writing or navigating, the display and my IPhone 5 
>>> loses connection, and it can be a little tricky to get it back 
>>> again.
>>>
>>> Best regards Annie.
>>> On Mar 10, 2013, at 7:21 PM, Rollin Hippler 
>>> <irie_10...@mindspring.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> At least with the Brailliant, for any field which is a list of 
>>>> values
>>> (adjustable) command-3 moves down the list and command-6 moves up 
>>> the list.
>>> When not on an adjustable field, command 3 advances the focus to the 
>>> next rotor position and command -6 does the opposite.  Command-2-3 
>>> selects the next rotor action and command-5-6 goesbackwardthrough 
>>> the list.
>>>> One other helpful set of command keys is command-1-3 activates 
>>>> VoiceOver
>>> help and command-1-2 exits help.  When VoiceOver help is active, 
>>> pressing any key(s) on the Brailliant describes what that function 
>>> does.  The spoken text appears momentarily on the braille display, 
>>> but it disappears quickly so it is difficult to read.
>>>> Hope this is helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Rollin
>>>> On 3/9/2013 2:18 PM, anouk radix wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I also have a braillant bi40 and would like to be able to use my 
>>>>> iphone
>>> wiwhtout speech.
>>>>> Some things that you can do to make the process more efficient if 
>>>>> you
>>> want to just use braille:
>>>>> use the spotlight feature (hit cmd-h from the home screen) to 
>>>>> search for
>>> the app that you need.
>>>>> If you want to search for text within an app, for example safari 
>>>>> but
>>> really any hap doubletap the screen three times and you will get the 
>>> item choser with an edit field, if you want to cancel the item 
>>> choser you have to use the command that emulates the home button 
>>> (cmd-h).
>>>>> I am still experimenting with selecting/cutting or copying text 
>>>>> while
>>> using a braille display which i believe would be a lot more 
>>> efficient, at least for me, then doing it by using the touch screen.
>>>>> Things that are difficult or that you cant do (to my knowledge) by 
>>>>> just
>>> using the braille display):
>>>>> If you are using a word processor and you have to leave the app 
>>>>> and then
>>> go back to it then the vo focus within the document will be lost. 
>>> This is
>>> not limited to braille display though.
>>>>> Double tap and hold is one of the gestures already mentioned that 
>>>>> you
>>> cannot do, to my knowledge.
>>>>> Also, if you have a table index and you want to doubletap and hold 
>>>>> and
>>> move up and down i dont know how to do this on a braille display.
>>>>> Furthermore if you have lists that you need to change by swiping 
>>>>> up and
>>> down (for example to change a value in the standard iphone alarm
>>> clock) i
>>> dont know if you can do this. I have several apps that make use of 
>>> this gesture and now have to go to the touchscreen and turn the speech
on.
>>>>> If anyone has any more tips/suggestions to make more effective use 
>>>>> of your iphone and just braille display  this would be greatly 
>>>>> appreciated
>>>>>
>>>>> Op 09/03/2013 19:13, Mary Otten schreef:
>>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>> I also have a TBI32 that is paired with a 4S and with an iPad 1st 
>>>>>> gen.
>>> You can do most, but not all things with braille, unless I'm missing 
>>> something. You can't, for example, do the double tap hold from a 
>>> braille display. If you can, please somebody let me know how. Also, 
>>> and I suppose obviously, if you need to pair or repair the display, 
>>> you need to interact with the touch screen and hear the speech 
>>> output to accomplish that task.
>>> And some things, like opening an app whose place you know on the 
>>> touch screen are more efficient with touch than with the braille 
>>> display, simply because you can go right to the app and double tap 
>>> it. No sequential arrowing to get there. None of these things are 
>>> specific to the TBI-32, which is, in my opinion, an excellent 
>>> display that works quite well with the iPhone.
>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mary Otten
>>>>>> motte...@gmail.com
>>>>>>
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