Fred, you are assuming that they are all lazy. That is indeed not the case. Should we assume that if you ask us a question, whether or not you've done your homework, that you are being lazy as well? I don't usually tend to make that assumption about people.
DJ -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fred Olver Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What do they do??? Maybe they come to you because that way they don't have to do it themselves. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Johnson" <pat1...@insightbb.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:05 AM Subject: RE: What do they do??? >I do have friends who hardly will ever try to figure things out on their >own > because they don't have the confidence in themselves, they are afraid of > doing something wrong. > I am not saying there is right or wrong in any of this; I just think > those > that ask should be respected and answered even if we ourselves wish they > would do their own work. > I have done a lot of stuff for people that I think they should be able to > do > for themselves, yet over and over again when they need help they come to > me > for it and I think to myself, they need to learn this on their own but if > they won't because they are fearful of making a mistake, then I have to > help > them. > Patti > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Fred Olver > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:58 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: What do they do??? > > Patty, if the information is readily available, why ask the list? Aren't > we > supposed to be able to do some things on our own or have we all become so > lazy that rather than find out ourselves that we must bring it to the list > because we can't take the time to find out for ourselves? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patti Johnson" <pat1...@insightbb.com> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:53 AM > Subject: RE: What do they do??? > > >>I was telling a friend about this who was thinking of subscribing to >>this list; and she said if you're told to do your research all the >>time then what's the point of the list? >> I personally don't mind answering questions, no matter how many times >>the question is asked. >> Some people are new to this thing, and we don't know who is or isn't. >>Or their level of experience. Patience needs to be exercised on any >>email list, because we don't know where the person writing in is >>coming from. Just my humble opinion. And actually if you don't want >>to answer that person on list write to them privately, which would >>take away from the high traffic. >> Patti >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Fred Olver >> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:44 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: What do they do??? >> >> Thanks for your comments, I just happen to find it very irritating >> that somewhat intelligent people choose not, even when they have the >> information at their fingertips to find the information themselves >> rather than ask on such a high-traffic list. This was as a result of >> two messages in a row which asked the question of two different app's, >> what does it do. >> >> Fred >> ----- Original Message. In this case, there were two mesages in a row >> that asked the same question, "What does it do ----- >> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chalt...@gmail.com> >> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:23 AM >> Subject: Re: What do they do??? >> >> >>> Well, I thought the whole thread was kind of annoying and >>> condescending myself, and I didn't have the patience to read it. I >>> doubt many of the targeted audience is going to have the patience to >>> read such an email let alone follow the tips tucked in it. I also >>> wonder how much time was spent writing and reading such a message as >>> opposed to just hitting the delete key when someone asks a question >>> you can't or don't want to answer. I find the one liners like "What >>> does >> this app do?" or "How much does it cost?" >>> to be just as annoying as the next guy, but given that Raul, as the >>> moderator, has already done a good job trying to curb such behavior, >>> I don't think it's going to change human behavior much, and I think >>> it's best left to Raul and the moderators. >>> >>> On 04/11/2013 06:40 AM, Fred Olver wrote: >>>> Thanks, Will for bringing me a chuckle this morning. I get so tired >>>> of folks asking what does it do when they could so easily find out >>>> the information for themselves. >>>> Maybe my little piece will cause them to think before postting to >>>> the list. >>>> Fred >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> *From:* Wil James <mailto:w...@wilanddenise.com> >>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:07 AM >>>> *Subject:* Re: What do they do??? >>>> >>>> You forgot the other burning question. How much does it cost? >>>> >>>> Sent from Wil's iPhone 4S >>>> ---------- >>>> E-mail or iMessage: w...@wilanddenise.com >>>> <mailto:w...@wilanddenise.com> >>>> Twitter: wiljames >>>> zellow: wilcjames >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:47 PM, "Fred Olver" <goodfo...@charter.net >>>> <mailto:goodfo...@charter.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Inquiring minds want to know, what does it do? What does it do???? >>>>> What does it do??? The answer is simple, in fact it is so simple >>>>> it's a wonder you didn't think of it yourself??? Unlike the >>>>> I-devices, there is a simple yet often-overlooked task which will >>>>> easily bring you the information you crave. >>>>> What is it you say, I can't wait, please, please, tell me. >>>>> Why it's as simple as typing the name of the app in to the space >>>>> marked, very clearly "SEARCH" I repeat "SEARCH", easily found >>>>> Where??? Ah, yet another question and yet one which answer is not >>>>> the commonly used phrase, "Over there", why it is, are you ready >>>>> for this, are you sure you are ready? It is after all your waiting >>>>> to find an answer which has iluded mankind for hmmm maybe 20 >>>>> seconds or so, of course, in the app store. See that wasn't so >>>>> difficult, now, here are the directions. Merely double-tap on the >>>>> "app store" Icon on your i-Device, wait for it to open and then, >>>>> then, look down at the bottom of the page which you will come to. >>>>> There are five buttons labeled from left to right: "Featured", >>>>> "top Charts" "genius" "search" and last but not least "updates". >>>>> Now, all you have to do after tapping the "search" item, a new >>>>> screen will appear in which you will be presented with an >>>>> on-screen keyboard, or, you can use an external keyboard, either >>>>> Braille or standard to gain the information you so badly crave. >>>>> Then all you need do is enter the necessary information field >>>>> using voice, keyboard bluetooth or keyboard on the phone and tap >>>>> "search" and voila, the information appears. This feature can be >>>>> used to find hidden apps like tap tap see, four square, or >>>>> perhapse you want to look up 4square. Words like radio or music >>>>> can present you with literally hundreds of functional >>>>> applications. Perhapse you long for apps which might be of use to >>>>> you tomorrow, Saturday, or maybe even next week. >>>>> Be sure to keep this document in case you forget what to do, lets >>>>> again, refresh, >>>>> 1. Find app store on your i-device >>>>> 2. Double tap to open this item. >>>>> 3. find the WORD "SEARCH" near the bottom of the screen, >>>>> double-tap on it at which point you will be presented with an >>>>> on-screen keyboard or you can use an external one if you wish, >>>>> 4. Type the name of what you are looking for or something like >>>>> rpg's or text adventures or cooking or games >>>>> 5. Again, double-tap the "search" button by using a keyboard to >>>>> input your information your choice and off you go. >>>>> I hope this has been helpful, compared to making use of some of >>>>> the apps available for the iPhone this is truly a very easy task >>>>> to accomplish. >>>>> If you still do not feel you understand this task, let me know and >>>>> I will indeed be glad to put together a podcast and if enough of >>>>> you ask me too, I'll see about putting it up on "applevis", what >>>>> is that, you ask, well, that's for another night. but that's >>>>> another message. >>>>> Later folks. >>>>> Happy searching. >>>>> Fred Olver >>>>> Thanks to Ester and Jonathon for all of your previous posts >>>>> teaching all of us what we need to know, I only hope I have come >>>>> close in presenting the necessary information for those who are >>>>> having difficulty accomplishing this task. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>> "VIPhone" Google Group. >>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>> send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - 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