I am new to this phone, I can I not ask questions?

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On 2013-04-11, at 10:44 AM, "Fred Olver" <goodfo...@charter.net> wrote:

> Maybe they come to you because that way they don't have to do it themselves.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Johnson" <pat1...@insightbb.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:05 AM
> Subject: RE: What do they do???
> 
> 
>> I do have friends who hardly will ever try to figure things out on their own
>> because they don't have the confidence in themselves, they are afraid of
>> doing something wrong.
>> I am not saying there is  right or wrong in any of this; I just think those
>> that ask should be respected and answered even if we ourselves wish they
>> would do their own work.
>> I have done a lot of stuff for people that I think they should be able to do
>> for themselves, yet over and over again when they need help they come to me
>> for it and I think to myself, they need to learn this on their own but if
>> they won't because they are fearful of making a mistake, then I have to help
>> them.
>> Patti
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Fred Olver
>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: What do they do???
>> 
>> Patty, if the information is readily available, why ask the list? Aren't we
>> supposed to be able to do some things on our own or have we all become so
>> lazy that rather than find out ourselves that we must bring it to the list
>> because we can't take the time to find out for ourselves?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Patti Johnson" <pat1...@insightbb.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:53 AM
>> Subject: RE: What do they do???
>> 
>> 
>>> I was telling a friend about this who was thinking of subscribing to
>>> this  list; and she said if  you're told to do your research all the
>>> time then  what's the point of the list?
>>> I personally don't mind answering questions, no matter how many times
>>> the  question is asked.
>>> Some people are new to this thing, and we don't know who is or isn't.
>>> Or  their level of experience. Patience needs to be exercised on any
>>> email  list,  because we don't know where the person writing in is
>>> coming from.  Just my  humble opinion. And actually if you don't want
>>> to answer that person on  list  write to them privately, which would
>>> take away from the high traffic.
>>> Patti
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Fred Olver
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:44 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: What do they do???
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your comments, I just happen to find it very irritating
>>> that somewhat intelligent people choose not, even when they have the
>>> information at their fingertips to find the information themselves
>>> rather than ask on such a high-traffic list. This was as a result of
>>> two messages in a row which asked the question of two different app's,
>>> what does it do.
>>> 
>>> Fred
>>> ----- Original Message. In this case, there were two mesages in a row
>>> that asked the same question, "What does it do -----
>>> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chalt...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:23 AM
>>> Subject: Re: What do they do???
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Well, I thought the whole thread was kind of annoying and
>>>> condescending myself, and I didn't have the patience to read it. I
>>>> doubt many of the targeted audience is going to have the patience to
>>>> read such an email let alone follow the tips tucked in it. I also
>>>> wonder how much time was spent writing and reading such a message as
>>>> opposed to just hitting the delete key when someone asks a question
>>>> you can't or don't want to answer. I find the one liners like "What
>>>> does
>>> this app do?" or "How much does it cost?"
>>>> to be just as annoying as the next guy, but given that Raul, as the
>>>> moderator, has already done a good job trying to curb such behavior,
>>>> I don't think it's going to change human behavior much, and I think
>>>> it's best left to Raul and the moderators.
>>>> 
>>>> On 04/11/2013 06:40 AM, Fred Olver wrote:
>>>>> Thanks, Will for bringing me a chuckle this morning. I get so tired
>>>>> of folks asking what does it do when they could so easily find out
>>>>> the information for themselves.
>>>>> Maybe my little piece will cause them to think before postting to
>>>>> the list.
>>>>> Fred
>>>>> 
>>>>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>    *From:* Wil James <mailto:w...@wilanddenise.com>
>>>>>    *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>    *Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:07 AM
>>>>>    *Subject:* Re: What do they do???
>>>>> 
>>>>>    You forgot the other burning question. How much does it cost?
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Sent from Wil's iPhone 4S
>>>>>    ----------
>>>>>    E-mail or iMessage: w...@wilanddenise.com
>>>>> <mailto:w...@wilanddenise.com>
>>>>>    Twitter: wiljames
>>>>>    zellow: wilcjames
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>    On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:47 PM, "Fred Olver" <goodfo...@charter.net
>>>>>    <mailto:goodfo...@charter.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>    Inquiring minds want to know, what does it do? What does it do????
>>>>>>    What does it do??? The answer is simple, in fact it is so simple
>>>>>>    it's a wonder you didn't think of it yourself??? Unlike the
>>>>>>    I-devices, there is a simple yet often-overlooked task which will
>>>>>>    easily bring you the information you crave.
>>>>>>    What is it you say, I can't wait, please, please, tell me.
>>>>>>    Why it's as simple as typing the name of the app in to the space
>>>>>>    marked, very clearly "SEARCH" I repeat "SEARCH", easily found
>>>>>>    Where??? Ah, yet another question and yet one which answer is not
>>>>>>    the commonly used phrase, "Over there", why it is, are you ready
>>>>>>    for this, are you sure you are ready? It is after all your waiting
>>>>>>    to find an answer which has iluded mankind for hmmm maybe 20
>>>>>>    seconds or so, of course, in the app store. See that wasn't so
>>>>>>    difficult, now, here are the directions. Merely double-tap on the
>>>>>>    "app store" Icon on your i-Device, wait for it to open and then,
>>>>>>    then, look down at the bottom of the page which you will come to.
>>>>>>    There are five buttons labeled from left to right: "Featured",
>>>>>>    "top Charts" "genius" "search" and last but not least "updates".
>>>>>>    Now, all you have to do after tapping the "search" item, a new
>>>>>>    screen will appear in which you will be presented with an
>>>>>>    on-screen keyboard, or, you can use an external keyboard, either
>>>>>>    Braille or standard to gain the information you so badly crave.
>>>>>>    Then all you need do is enter the necessary information field
>>>>>>    using voice, keyboard bluetooth or keyboard on the phone and tap
>>>>>>    "search" and voila, the information appears. This feature can be
>>>>>>    used to find hidden apps like tap tap see, four square, or
>>>>>>    perhapse you want to look up 4square. Words like radio or music
>>>>>>    can present you with literally hundreds of functional
>>>>>>    applications. Perhapse you  long for apps which might be of use to
>>>>>>    you tomorrow, Saturday, or maybe even next week.
>>>>>>    Be sure to keep this document in case you forget what to do, lets
>>>>>>    again, refresh,
>>>>>>    1. Find app store on your i-device
>>>>>>    2. Double tap to open this item.
>>>>>>    3. find the WORD "SEARCH" near the bottom of the screen,
>>>>>>    double-tap on it at which point you will be presented with an
>>>>>>    on-screen keyboard or you can use an external one if you wish,
>>>>>>    4. Type the name of what you are looking for or something like
>>>>>>    rpg's or text adventures or cooking or games
>>>>>>    5. Again, double-tap the "search" button by using a keyboard to
>>>>>>    input your information your choice and off you go.
>>>>>>    I hope this has been helpful, compared to making use of some of
>>>>>>    the apps available for the iPhone this is truly a very easy task
>>>>>>    to accomplish.
>>>>>>    If you still do not feel you understand this task, let me know and
>>>>>>    I will indeed be glad to put together a podcast and if enough of
>>>>>>    you ask me too, I'll see about putting it up on "applevis", what
>>>>>>    is that, you ask, well, that's for another night. but that's
>>>>>>    another message.
>>>>>>    Later folks.
>>>>>>    Happy searching.
>>>>>>    Fred Olver
>>>>>>    Thanks to Ester and Jonathon for all of your previous posts
>>>>>>    teaching all of us what we need to know, I only hope I have come
>>>>>>    close in presenting the necessary information for those who are
>>>>>>    having difficulty accomplishing this task.
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