Hi Fred,
It seems to me that there are many things you don't see. Some people have
more difficulty than others. There are people with multiple disabilities
who need more assistance and more understanding. If you don't have it
within yourself to help them, then I suggest that you make good use of your
delete key and get on with it.
Just an opinion
Ron & Danvers
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???
DJ, if you are searching for an app, or going to buy or put an app on your
phone you'd have to go through steps, what's so hard about doing this? I
just don't see it.
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "DJ" <grou...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: What do they do???
> Fred, you are assuming that they are all lazy. That is indeed not the
> case.
> Should we assume that if you ask us a question, whether or not you've done
> your homework, that you are being lazy as well? I don't usually tend to
> make that assumption about people.
>
> DJ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Fred Olver
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What do they do???
>
> Maybe they come to you because that way they don't have to do it
> themselves.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patti Johnson" <pat1...@insightbb.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:05 AM
> Subject: RE: What do they do???
>
>
>>I do have friends who hardly will ever try to figure things out on their
>>own
>> because they don't have the confidence in themselves, they are afraid of
>> doing something wrong.
>> I am not saying there is right or wrong in any of this; I just think
>> those
>> that ask should be respected and answered even if we ourselves wish they
>> would do their own work.
>> I have done a lot of stuff for people that I think they should be able to
>> do
>> for themselves, yet over and over again when they need help they come to
>> me
>> for it and I think to myself, they need to learn this on their own but if
>> they won't because they are fearful of making a mistake, then I have to
>> help
>> them.
>> Patti
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Fred Olver
>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: What do they do???
>>
>> Patty, if the information is readily available, why ask the list? Aren't
>> we
>> supposed to be able to do some things on our own or have we all become so
>> lazy that rather than find out ourselves that we must bring it to the
>> list
>> because we can't take the time to find out for ourselves?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Patti Johnson" <pat1...@insightbb.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:53 AM
>> Subject: RE: What do they do???
>>
>>
>>>I was telling a friend about this who was thinking of subscribing to
>>>this list; and she said if you're told to do your research all the
>>>time then what's the point of the list?
>>> I personally don't mind answering questions, no matter how many times
>>>the question is asked.
>>> Some people are new to this thing, and we don't know who is or isn't.
>>>Or their level of experience. Patience needs to be exercised on any
>>>email list, because we don't know where the person writing in is
>>>coming from. Just my humble opinion. And actually if you don't want
>>>to answer that person on list write to them privately, which would
>>>take away from the high traffic.
>>> Patti
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Fred Olver
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:44 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: What do they do???
>>>
>>> Thanks for your comments, I just happen to find it very irritating
>>> that somewhat intelligent people choose not, even when they have the
>>> information at their fingertips to find the information themselves
>>> rather than ask on such a high-traffic list. This was as a result of
>>> two messages in a row which asked the question of two different app's,
>>> what does it do.
>>>
>>> Fred
>>> ----- Original Message. In this case, there were two mesages in a row
>>> that asked the same question, "What does it do -----
>>> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chalt...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:23 AM
>>> Subject: Re: What do they do???
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, I thought the whole thread was kind of annoying and
>>>> condescending myself, and I didn't have the patience to read it. I
>>>> doubt many of the targeted audience is going to have the patience to
>>>> read such an email let alone follow the tips tucked in it. I also
>>>> wonder how much time was spent writing and reading such a message as
>>>> opposed to just hitting the delete key when someone asks a question
>>>> you can't or don't want to answer. I find the one liners like "What
>>>> does
>>> this app do?" or "How much does it cost?"
>>>> to be just as annoying as the next guy, but given that Raul, as the
>>>> moderator, has already done a good job trying to curb such behavior,
>>>> I don't think it's going to change human behavior much, and I think
>>>> it's best left to Raul and the moderators.
>>>>
>>>> On 04/11/2013 06:40 AM, Fred Olver wrote:
>>>>> Thanks, Will for bringing me a chuckle this morning. I get so tired
>>>>> of folks asking what does it do when they could so easily find out
>>>>> the information for themselves.
>>>>> Maybe my little piece will cause them to think before postting to
>>>>> the list.
>>>>> Fred
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> *From:* Wil James <mailto:w...@wilanddenise.com>
>>>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:07 AM
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: What do they do???
>>>>>
>>>>> You forgot the other burning question. How much does it cost?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Wil's iPhone 4S
>>>>> ----------
>>>>> E-mail or iMessage: w...@wilanddenise.com
>>>>> <mailto:w...@wilanddenise.com>
>>>>> Twitter: wiljames
>>>>> zellow: wilcjames
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:47 PM, "Fred Olver" <goodfo...@charter.net
>>>>> <mailto:goodfo...@charter.net>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Inquiring minds want to know, what does it do? What does it
>>>>>> do????
>>>>>> What does it do??? The answer is simple, in fact it is so simple
>>>>>> it's a wonder you didn't think of it yourself??? Unlike the
>>>>>> I-devices, there is a simple yet often-overlooked task which will
>>>>>> easily bring you the information you crave.
>>>>>> What is it you say, I can't wait, please, please, tell me.
>>>>>> Why it's as simple as typing the name of the app in to the space
>>>>>> marked, very clearly "SEARCH" I repeat "SEARCH", easily found
>>>>>> Where??? Ah, yet another question and yet one which answer is not
>>>>>> the commonly used phrase, "Over there", why it is, are you ready
>>>>>> for this, are you sure you are ready? It is after all your
>>>>>> waiting
>>>>>> to find an answer which has iluded mankind for hmmm maybe 20
>>>>>> seconds or so, of course, in the app store. See that wasn't so
>>>>>> difficult, now, here are the directions. Merely double-tap on the
>>>>>> "app store" Icon on your i-Device, wait for it to open and then,
>>>>>> then, look down at the bottom of the page which you will come to.
>>>>>> There are five buttons labeled from left to right: "Featured",
>>>>>> "top Charts" "genius" "search" and last but not least "updates".
>>>>>> Now, all you have to do after tapping the "search" item, a new
>>>>>> screen will appear in which you will be presented with an
>>>>>> on-screen keyboard, or, you can use an external keyboard, either
>>>>>> Braille or standard to gain the information you so badly crave.
>>>>>> Then all you need do is enter the necessary information field
>>>>>> using voice, keyboard bluetooth or keyboard on the phone and tap
>>>>>> "search" and voila, the information appears. This feature can be
>>>>>> used to find hidden apps like tap tap see, four square, or
>>>>>> perhapse you want to look up 4square. Words like radio or music
>>>>>> can present you with literally hundreds of functional
>>>>>> applications. Perhapse you long for apps which might be of use
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> you tomorrow, Saturday, or maybe even next week.
>>>>>> Be sure to keep this document in case you forget what to do, lets
>>>>>> again, refresh,
>>>>>> 1. Find app store on your i-device
>>>>>> 2. Double tap to open this item.
>>>>>> 3. find the WORD "SEARCH" near the bottom of the screen,
>>>>>> double-tap on it at which point you will be presented with an
>>>>>> on-screen keyboard or you can use an external one if you wish,
>>>>>> 4. Type the name of what you are looking for or something like
>>>>>> rpg's or text adventures or cooking or games
>>>>>> 5. Again, double-tap the "search" button by using a keyboard to
>>>>>> input your information your choice and off you go.
>>>>>> I hope this has been helpful, compared to making use of some of
>>>>>> the apps available for the iPhone this is truly a very easy task
>>>>>> to accomplish.
>>>>>> If you still do not feel you understand this task, let me know
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> I will indeed be glad to put together a podcast and if enough of
>>>>>> you ask me too, I'll see about putting it up on "applevis", what
>>>>>> is that, you ask, well, that's for another night. but that's
>>>>>> another message.
>>>>>> Later folks.
>>>>>> Happy searching.
>>>>>> Fred Olver
>>>>>> Thanks to Ester and Jonathon for all of your previous posts
>>>>>> teaching all of us what we need to know, I only hope I have come
>>>>>> close in presenting the necessary information for those who are
>>>>>> having difficulty accomplishing this task.
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