Hi Craig. I don't have the benefit of college experience with this,
so all I can go by is personal experience. I have to respectfully
disagree with what you say below. In dealing with people with
technical support or training whether it's done via email, phone
calls, or in person, I have found that you cannot really tell a
person's emotions or intent if you compare what they write to what
they say. There are of course exceptions to the rule like with
everything in life. I've known some people who talk they way they
write and vice versa. However most do not in my experience. I think
that you and I have spoken before, and so you have an idea of how I
come across when I speak on the phone. When I listen to myself in
podcasts or phone call recordings, I don't believe that the way I
sound is the same way as I type. I've even compared answering emails
on this list and when I write an email compared to when I dictate it,
the styles are different. At least for me, if I'm angry or annoyed,
when I write my messages in email, they do not come off that way.
Yet, if I were to dictate an email message when not feeling the best,
it probably would.
I should probably stop this now since it's starting to stray off
topic, but I'm willing to discuss this with you, or anyone else who
is interested in this further.
-- Raul A. Gallegos Oh dear. You're 15, You should be picking flowers
not baby names. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
On 4/11/2013 11:24 AM, Craig Werner wrote:
> MamaPeach, you wrote:
>
> "When items are being addressed through email or text, one can not
> tell how the person is trying to come across."
>
> If the writer and reader put little or no thought into a string of
> communication, this is true. However, it's a common misconception
> that one cannot judge someone's feelings or intent by looking at
> their writing. As someone who has taught college writing all his
> working life, I know that tone, the attitude of an author towards
> her/his subject and her/his readers, can be intelligently
> discussed. If a writer and a reader both think hard about what
> they are writing and reading, arriving at a correct assessment of
> feelings and intentions is a quite likely outcome. After all, if
> we mistrust writing as a barometer of communication, we're in a
> pretty bad way, aren't we? <smile>
>
> Craig
>
> On 4/11/13, MamaPeach <mamape...@charter.net> wrote:
>> And some people mistake what is being said as being
>> confrontational. I was simply asking how I could make it work.
>> When items are being addressed through email or text, one can not
>> tell how the person is trying to come across. I was in no way
>> challenging anyone. I simply was curious as to how to make the
>> app function with VoiceOver.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent:
>> Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: walgreens store ap
>>
>> I agree, but I thought the way the original question was phrased
>> was a bit confrontational as well. Instead of saying "Okay, want
>> to give some pointers? When I launch the app, VoiceOver reads
>> absolutely nothing, so how is that accessible?" If you want some
>> accessibility tips, just ask for them, don't challenge the person
>> who's saying it's accessible. Of course this tip could have been
>> included from the beginning, but there's no point in making it
>> worse, and sometimes people just forget about work arounds they
>> used to get something working.
>>
>>
>> On 04/11/2013 07:21 AM, Roger Frischenmeyer wrote:
>>> so if you didn't mean to be mean, what was even the point of
>>> putting that in their?????????
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Jessica Arnold
>>> <mailto:yiskaly...@icloud.com> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Sent:* Thursday, April 11,
>>> 2013 3:15 AM *Subject:* Re: walgreens store ap
>>>
>>> When you first open the Walgreens app the screen comes up. I
>>> don't know what it is. But there is a button on there that you
>>> double tap. I don't think you even have to find it. You just
>>> double tap it and the app becomes accessible. The app is
>>> completely accessible. Although I don't like the layout of it
>>> Sometimes. But it does work. Honestly. I don't mean to be mean
>>> either. But sometimes you people just need to explore a little
>>> bit.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 11, 2013, at 12:11 AM, MamaPeach <mamape...@charter.net
>>> <mailto:mamape...@charter.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Okay, want to give some pointers? When I launch the app,
>>>> VoiceOver reads absolutely nothing, so how is that
>>>> accessible? *From:* Bill Gallik
>>>> <mailto:wfgal...@charter.net> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10,
>>>> 2013 11:55 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Re: walgreens
>>>> store ap Hmmm, not to be contrary with anybody else on this
>>>> list, but I’ve found the Walgreen’s app sufficiently
>>>> accessible to enable me to: - use the “Refill Prescription”
>>>> feature reasonably effectively – scanning the bar code is a
>>>> bit challenging but not impossible by any means - searching
>>>> through weekly specials is fine - locating a “store” is very
>>>> usable - the coupon feature is a bit dicey because I suppose
>>>> it’s only a picture of coupons Is it 100% accessible? No.
>>>> Does it take some practice to use some of the accessible
>>>> features efficiently? Certainly! Is it an app I enjoy using
>>>> and can accomplish given tasks? Absolutely! Is it pricey? Not
>>>> at all – it is free. Would I recommend it to other totally
>>>> blind iPhone users? That is exactly what I’m doing here! One
>>>> pointer on using the “Refill” feature; the bar code is
>>>> typically on the right side of the label, but you need to
>>>> turn the bottle on its’ side to scan it correctly because
>>>> that bar code is positioned sideways on the right side of the
>>>> script label. And some items – those that come in boxes
>>>> rather than those plastic bottles – present a bit more of a
>>>> challenge. Just remember that the bar code is positioned
>>>> sideways on the right of the script label and you should be
>>>> able to locate and scan it. One thing, if you don’t get it
>>>> right (scanning the bar code that is) the app immediately
>>>> informs you of an invalid script number. And if you get some
>>>> wrong number, unless it just happens to be a script number
>>>> belonging to you it will not process. Personally, I wouldn’t
>>>> be without the Walgreen’s app, it’s much more convenient than
>>>> having to look up a script number and call it in. And, yes,
>>>> I am totally blind so cannot use any residual sight to help
>>>> me use this app. ---- Holland's Person, Bill E-Mail:
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>>>> acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off
>>>> their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more." - US
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