I started with iTunes on Windows. iTunes is a Mac product and follows Mac conventions. It was much harder for me to learn because it does things differently from standard Windows programs. That said, once I got my head around the very different approach, I found it easier than WinAmp or Windows Media Player. About a year after that, I switched to the Mac. Note: I never worked with a Mac before I switched, so my finding iTunes easy once I got my head around it had nothing to do with working on a mac.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 26/04/2013, at 11:51, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi David, > > This is something I've seen from many blind people as well. But, usually > Windows users. iTunes on Windows has gotten a lot better but, It seems to me > to run so much smoother with Voiceover on a Mac. And I don't think this is > my Mac bias either. I just think iTunes is much more stable on the Mac > platform. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:38 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I would agree with you. Unfortunately, several blind people on this list >> repeatedly state a level of dislike of iTunes ranging from dislike to >> hatred. I personally do not understand the feelings. I switched to iTunes >> when I purchased my original iPhone 4 and learned to use it. After that, I >> found it easier to use than WinAmp or Windows Media Player. The fact is, >> once we learn a particular product, anything else is automatically much >> harder to use because it is different. It doesn't matter if the new product >> is better or easier once we learn it. The initial reaction is almost always >> extremely negative, and many people are unable to get past that initial >> reaction. >> >> Considering the above, I have learned, based on many negative attacks at me >> for suggesting it, not to recommend, or even suggest, iTunes as the most >> reasonable solution. >> >> Again, for me, iTunes is one of the better, if not the best, media players >> for both Windows and Mac, and I have a difficult time understanding why so >> many blind people struggle with, or refuse to use, the program. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 26/04/2013, at 11:07, "Lauren Simmons" <simmonslaure...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I think Ray should install iTunes on his computer then give AT&T tech >>> support a phone call. This will prevent any negative feelings during this >>> introductory stage of iPhone ownership. There are so many options and steps >>> necessary to setup an iDevice that it can quickly get overwhelming and >>> incredibly frustrating. >>> >>> LS >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Chittenden" >>> <dchitten...@gmail.com> >>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:05 PM >>> Subject: Re: what's in the box >>> >>> >>> You will not get service until an activated SIM card is installed. That >>> said, you will most likely need to activate the iPhone before you get >>> coverage, even if a SIM card is installed. The iPhone can either be >>> activated using a computer and iTunes, or during the set-up process on the >>> phone. I do not know if you need Wifi for the activation process as I have >>> always used iTunes, or had it activated at the carrier store. I find it >>> quicker and easier to use iTunes as I am also able to restore my back-up on >>> to the new iPhone at the same time. Besides, the process is much quicker on >>> the computer compared with using iCloud on the iPhone for restoration. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 26/04/2013, at 8:30, "Dan Beaver GMail" <dbeaver...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> It is hard to say. Mine said no service until it was configured even >>>> though it did not need a SIMM. >>>> >>>> Not being familiar with GSM usage I feel unqualified to answer this one. >>>> >>>> Anyone else know what is going on? >>>> >>>> Dan Beaver >>>> >>>> From: Ray T. Mahorney >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: what's in the box >>>> >>>> there was not one of those diddle sticks in the box either. The phone >>>> reports no service which does not mean no sim or does it? >>>> >>>> >>>> Ray T. Mahorney >>>> WA4WGA >>>> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>>> Of Dan Beaver GMail >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 19:09 >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: what's in the box >>>> >>>> When you look at it be aware that on the 5 the SIMM card tray is very very >>>> flush with the edge of the phone. In fact, on mine I can not feel it at >>>> all. >>>> >>>> The way it is ejected is by sticking a paper clip end or something small >>>> like that into the very small hole next to the tray and pressing it firmly >>>> inward. I do mean firmly too. I was afraid I was going to damage my >>>> phone it took so much pressure. >>>> >>>> Once you do this the tray will pop out and the card will be held there if >>>> it is in the phone. >>>> >>>> Good luck and have fun. >>>> >>>> Dan Beaver >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit 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