Hi E V. You may think Raul is over-reacting, but I don't. :)
if I had not been at work when I saw your note, I would have responded, myself. So better late than never I guess. I completely stand behind everything that Raul said in reference to where this thread is going. the fact is that you do not know each person's individual efforts and how difficult or easy it might be for them to accomplish goals and / or overcome what some might see as extremely difficult tasks. No, we're sure not asking you or anyone else to keep your opinions to yourself, and I actually think you already know that. So please don't bother trying to incite heated discussion or flames. there's no need for you to retaliate. :) Everyone (you included) is always welcome to share opinions here, and after all, the original poster did ask for them. What we're suggesting is that anyone sharing such opinions just try to bare in mind how they may come across. We all have had experience where email communication might not come across like we want it to, so just keep this in mind when you write. We all work at different levels in our day-to-day lives and it's really easy to assume that everyone is capable of exactly the same things as we ourselves are capable of. However this is in a way, more of the same stereotype that we as blind and visually impaired people may experience from those who are sighted and may not be acquainted with many (or any) blind people. While it may be tempting to believe we as humans are all exactly the same, I think we all realize this is obviously not the case. :) So please do be aware of each other on this list when you share an opinion that might be controversial. I think controversy is awesome! :) -and it certainly has a place here. That's what makes us all interesting! :) We're all different, so please let's share those differences in a positive way. K? That's all… Pleas just be kind and supportive to each other. E V, you're not wrong, your sentiments can actually really inspire people to move themselves forward. Make your words positive and assist people and I think you'll be surprised at how many people actually agree with you and how many people you find that actually really are trying to move themselves to do as much as they possibly can accomplish. Help them to do this by supporting them and suggesting positive ways and resources for them. Does this make sense? Thanks so much to everyone! Please do keep your opinions coming and be cool to each other! :) Have an awesome day / weekend! Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jul 26, 2013, at 5:33 AM, E V <e_vi...@comcast.net> wrote: Raul, My friend, I think you over reacted here. I was not, repeat, was not targeting Dan when I wrote my message, it was a general message to the list. Are you suggesting that I am not entitled to express an opinion? E V -----Original Message----- From: Raul A. Gallegos [mailto:r...@raulgallegos.com] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 5:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: E V; Cara Quinn Subject: Re: camfind, taptapsee, goggles etc Hello E V. Your quote of "If tasks get to difficult, then find a way to > overcome your challenges. That applys to just about everything in life." is a bit disturbing to me. Here is why. First off, what do you personally know about Dan, or about most others who subscribe to this list? Do you know what challenges someone might be faced with other than blindness, or maybe blindness is already a challenge as it is for some individuals and it's a daily struggle just to get by as it is. If I talk about me personally I can tell you that I've overcome the problems of losing my eye sight. However had someone said what you wrote to me during the first few years of me losing my sight, my response to you would be very harsh. You don't personally know my situation, whether I can overcome things or not. I agree that many things in life can be overcome, but not everyone is the same, not everyone has positive people around them, or maybe not everyone thinks in the same way to give them the ability to easily overcome challenges in life. So, before making assumptions of someone's message on list, let's step back for a bit and think how our message may sound or how it may come off. For example, how might you feel if using a harsh tone I pointed out that you misspelled the word "applies" because you wrote it as "applys". Thanks much from your friendly moderator. -- Raul A. Gallegos No one sits in my spot. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 7/25/2013 6:49 PM, E V wrote: > This is such a bad idea. If tasks get to difficult, then find a way > to overcome your challenges. That applys to just about everything in life. > E V > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Dan Beaver > *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2013 9:13 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* camfind, taptapsee, goggles etc > > Hi all, > I thought I'd get your opinions before I go chatting with the > developers of these kinds of apps. > I have found that one of the biggest difficulties I have is holding > the phone steady enough to take clear pictures. I personally can't > afford purchasing devices to hold the phone so I came up with another idea. > I have found that I can take pretty good pics if the phone is resting > on a table top or something. However, I still tend to jiggle the > phone when tapping the button to take a pic or start the video and the like. > My thought here is asking the developers to add the ability to > activate pic taking or video starting and stopping via a sound. this > would enable us to position the phone and then clap our hands or > whistle or something to activate it. > I figure that if you folks feel this would be helpful enough I'd start > the discussion with the developers and see if they would be open to > such a change. > So, what do you all think? > Thanks. > Dan Beaver > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. > > Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. > > Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > > Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing > viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. > > Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. > > Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. > > Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > > Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing > viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. > > Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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