Hi Brice,

Yes, I agree, at least Apple could maybe allow people to turn this automatic
switching on and off in Accessibility Settings. Hopefully you will take a
few minutes to write to accessibil...@apple.com and express this, I have
done so once before some time back and plan to do so again and hopefully a
lot of other people will join us.

I also ordered an unlocked 5S on Friday, but while I had planned to get the
Gold one as well I decided to go with the Black/Space Grey one again since
it only showed a 7-10 day lead time and I didn't want to wait 6 or 7 weeks.
Are you in Canada, the States or elsewhere in the world? Apple told me on
the phone that October means it might not ship until the end of October
which means I would get it at the beginning of November. Of course it could
also ship the first week of October and 10 business days for my Space Grey
one means it could also ship as late as October 4, but hopefully it will be
sooner.

I read on the Today in iOS website that 5S availability at Apple Stores
around the world was miserable and some stores had none or maybe only 1 or 2
Gold 64 Gig phones. Apparently the Apple Store in Sidney Australia had an
800 meter line up, ann entire half mile.


Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Hi,

I have a 4S, but I just ordered an unlocked gold 5s. It's not going to ship
until October, so if this continues or gets worse I'm going to have to do
something about it. I'm fairly happy with IOS 7 but I really can't put up
with this much longer.

I would rather tap on the speaker phone button when I need it. This is
something I really can't stand about the design. Even if you're phone is on
speaker phone and you move your hand near the mouth piece, the phone will
automatically switch back which is also frustrating. I can't believe there's
still not a way to disable this.

Brice

On 9/22/13, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> Hello Brice,
>
> Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so 
> seconds of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in 
> fact, I received a replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my 
> camera wasn't auto focusing any more and my old 4S was much better 
> with that. Which phone do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
> I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S 
> if anybody has that issue.
>
> I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic 
> switching to speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the 
> Speakerphone button just like any sighted person if I want my call on 
> Speakerphone and this would completely get rid of this issue which has 
> been an issue to some degree for certain people for the last 4 years. 
> What does everybody else think, would you prefer to have to double tap 
> on the Speakerphone button or would you prefer to keep the automatic
switching as is?
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Brice Smith
> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
>
> Hi, everyone.
>
> Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I 
> double tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only 
> started happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could 
> always double tap, immediately lift the phone to my ear and start 
> talking with the speaker phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will 
> occasionally switch to speaker phone even when the phone is next to my 
> head when I've just started a call.
>
> I use my phone for work so this inconsistency is really frustrating.
> Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Brice
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