Sieghartd, where are you from?  Just Curious.
On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

> Hi Brice,
> 
> I usually have either my Jabra Bluetooth or Apple Earpods handy. I know it's
> warmer where you are, but here it is getting to e sweater and jacket time so
> quite often I have my iPhone in my belt clip and I have the earpods plugged
> in and the cable under my sweater with the ends hanging around my neck under
> the color. This is very unobtrusive and if the phone rings I just pick up
> the right earpiece, stick it in my ear and answer the phone with the remote.
> This of course avoids the problem entirely. 
> 
> If I do answer without headset I found it's sometimes best to do the
> 2-finger double tap and not bring it up to the ear right away. I often just
> ask the caller to hold just a second, then if I bring it up to my ear it's
> often better and the switching if it happens mostly happens right at the
> beginning.
> 
> I might have even decided to stand in line to get a Gold iPhone, but the
> problem for me is that the nearest Apple Store for me is in Vancouver which
> is a 1 hour and 40 minute flight in a Dash 8 4-engine turbo prop plane or a
> 1,500 mile round trip by road. Oh well, a couple weeks of looking forward to
> it doesn't hurt in today's instant gratification society!
> 
> Good luck,
> Sieghard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Brice Smith
> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
> 
> Thanks, Sieghard. I'll write to Apple. I don't know what good it will do,
> but something is better than nothing. In the mean time, I wonder if I should
> just start triple clicking the home button when my phone rings so it won't
> automatically switch to speaker phone, but then I won't be able to use the
> two finger double tap gesture to actually answer the call if VO is turned
> off.
> 
> I'm in North Carolina in the United States. Yep, the online orders for the
> gold phone slipped to October at 3:25 a.m. Eastern, 25 minutes after it went
> on sale. Guess who ordered his phone online exactly at
> 3:25 a.m.?
> 
> I guess the color doesn't really matter but still, I want gold for something
> different. I'm hoping "October" changes soon and I don't have to wait
> several weeks. I'm also planning on checking my local store now and then to
> see if they have any models. IMO, Apple really messed up this launch with
> the gold phone. Since I purchase device only, I could always go in store and
> then cancel the online order with no repercussions if that option becomes
> available.
> 
> Brice
> 
> On 9/22/13, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> Hi Brice,
>> 
>> Yes, I agree, at least Apple could maybe allow people to turn this 
>> automatic switching on and off in Accessibility Settings. Hopefully 
>> you will take a few minutes to write to accessibil...@apple.com and 
>> express this, I have done so once before some time back and plan to do 
>> so again and hopefully a lot of other people will join us.
>> 
>> I also ordered an unlocked 5S on Friday, but while I had planned to 
>> get the Gold one as well I decided to go with the Black/Space Grey one 
>> again since it only showed a 7-10 day lead time and I didn't want to wait
> 6 or 7 weeks.
>> Are you in Canada, the States or elsewhere in the world? Apple told me 
>> on the phone that October means it might not ship until the end of 
>> October which means I would get it at the beginning of November. Of 
>> course it could also ship the first week of October and 10 business 
>> days for my Space Grey one means it could also ship as late as October 
>> 4, but hopefully it will be sooner.
>> 
>> I read on the Today in iOS website that 5S availability at Apple 
>> Stores around the world was miserable and some stores had none or 
>> maybe only 1 or
>> 2
>> Gold 64 Gig phones. Apparently the Apple Store in Sidney Australia had 
>> an
>> 800 meter line up, ann entire half mile.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Brice Smith
>> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:10 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have a 4S, but I just ordered an unlocked gold 5s. It's not going to 
>> ship until October, so if this continues or gets worse I'm going to 
>> have to do something about it. I'm fairly happy with IOS 7 but I 
>> really can't put up with this much longer.
>> 
>> I would rather tap on the speaker phone button when I need it. This is 
>> something I really can't stand about the design. Even if you're phone 
>> is on speaker phone and you move your hand near the mouth piece, the 
>> phone will automatically switch back which is also frustrating. I 
>> can't believe there's still not a way to disable this.
>> 
>> Brice
>> 
>> On 9/22/13, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> Hello Brice,
>>> 
>>> Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so 
>>> seconds of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in 
>>> fact, I received a replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my 
>>> camera wasn't auto focusing any more and my old 4S was much better 
>>> with that. Which phone do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
>>> I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S 
>>> if anybody has that issue.
>>> 
>>> I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic 
>>> switching to speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the 
>>> Speakerphone button just like any sighted person if I want my call on 
>>> Speakerphone and this would completely get rid of this issue which 
>>> has been an issue to some degree for certain people for the last 4 years.
>>> What does everybody else think, would you prefer to have to double 
>>> tap on the Speakerphone button or would you prefer to keep the 
>>> automatic
>> switching as is?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Brice Smith
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:32 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
>>> 
>>> Hi, everyone.
>>> 
>>> Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I 
>>> double tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only 
>>> started happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could 
>>> always double tap, immediately lift the phone to my ear and start 
>>> talking with the speaker phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone 
>>> will occasionally switch to speaker phone even when the phone is next 
>>> to my head when I've just started a call.
>>> 
>>> I use my phone for work so this inconsistency is really frustrating.
>>> Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brice
>>> 
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