Catherin, do you have change with buttons turned on in settings?  That would 
explained that volume change.  I have it turned off and I don't have the volume 
included in the rotor because I want my phone to ring at it's maximum according 
to the master/over all volume.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Katey Glass 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 5:40 AM
  Subject: Re: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s


  Here's a copy of the email I sent to apple 



  Good Morning/Afternoon,



  My name is Catherine Glass and I've been using an iPhone since the 3GS came 
out with accessibility, I had a 3GS, 4s and now a 5s.  Unfortunately, I write 
today to report a bug which I, and many other blind/visually impaired VoiceOver 
users seem to be having with our brand new 5s units.  



  This bug involved the VO volume in the rotor.  I have had this selected on my 
4s and it worked as expected, raising my VO volume independently of the system 
sounds from 1% to 100%.  However, after receiving my brand new 5s this weekend, 
and restoring it from a backup of my 4s, the volume when I flick up is stuck at 
45%.  While I can raise and lower the volume using the volume buttons on the 
side, the system sounds -- ringers and alerts are rather loud.  If us lower the 
volume of sounds the VO voice gets way too low.  



  I am a person who has some usable vision and I can see that when I press the 
volume up button to raise the VO volume the little symbol which tells how high 
the volume is almost to the top and still VO voice is somewhat low in volume.  
This is not the case with my 4s.  I can make the system sounds rather loud and 
have VO speak softly.  If I put VO volume in my rotor it’s stuck at 45%.  



  What should I do to fix this issue?  I have a brand new iPhone 64 Gig, silver 
on the AT&T network.  I got this through the AT&T store.  Any information you 
can provide me would be greatly appreciated.  


  A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart. 


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  On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Katey Glass <katey...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Mark,

    Thanks for the tip.  I may wind up trying that.  But If I sync my phone 
with my mac and then reset it after syncing it, wont' the volume come back in 
the rotor or the volume which it was set at be there?  What I was thinking of 
doing was exactly what you said, going to settings> general> reset> and the 
first option reset all settings.  I know that all my accessibility settings as 
well as my battery saving tips which I put in my 4s will be gone (and all 
papers as well).  I can manually go back and reset them -- I still have my 4s 
and thus I could easily go through the menus and put back the ones I want-- 
minus the volume in the rotor.  I guess what I want to know is this a software 
or hardware bug?  
    Thanks again,  Katey 
    A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart. 


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    On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:20 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:

      Hi Katey,

      While I've never experienced this issue on my 5 S, I know several people 
who
      have.

      A friend of mine and I were able to resolve his problem by doing the
      following:

      Oh, I almost forgot.  Please be sure to backup your phone before you 
begin.
      I strongly suggest that you backup your device to iTunes rather than to 
the
      cloud--especially in this kind of situation.

      1.
      Make sure your device is not connected to your computer.

      2.
      From the Settings menu, select General.

      3.
      Select Reset.

      4.
      Select "Reset All Settings".  Please note that this is a non-destructive
      reset.  It will not erase any of your media content or apps.  It will,
      however, reset many system settings including VoiceOver configuration.

      5.
      Once the reset is complete, make sure that the Volume option is not active
      in the VoiceOver Rotor.  Never, never attempt to adjust volume via the 
Rotor
      until this bug is resolved.

      6.
      From the Settings menu, select Sounds.

      7.
      Make certain that the "change with" option is set to off.  Now you should 
be
      able to adjust VoiceOver independently of the ringer volume.  Experiment
      with this to make sure you're up and running.  If you're feeling lucky:

      8.
      Attach your phone to the computer and use iTunes to restore from your 
latest
      backup.

      If all goes well, restoring your phone will not impact VoiceOver to the
      extent that it engages the bug.

      Good Luck,

      Mark


      -----Original Message-----
      From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
      Of Katey Glass
      Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 2:23 PM
      To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>; accessible-...@freelists.org
      Subject: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

      Hello all,

      Sorry for the cross post, but I have a question.  I recently updated my
      iPhone 4S to a 5s, and I was aware of the bug where you have the volume in
      the roter.  I knew one should't go below 35% and that it couldn't go above
      90%.

      IAfter my update I still had volume in the roter, and it was on 45% and
      wouldn't go above that!  I didn't dare go below that.  I still have my 4s,
      which I can go all the way to 1% to 100% successfully each and every time.

      So, how do I get my VO volume to go up to 100%?  Should I sync my iPhone 
4S
      with the computer with it up to 100% in the roter volume and then sync my 
5s
      so that volume is at 100% and then lower it to say 75% and take volume out
      of the roter?

      Any help and insights would be appreciated.

      Katey

      Sent from my iPad


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