how do you know witch button, or what is each thing on that app. I am getting a lot of problems trying to guess what does each thing on this app. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 5:59 AM Subject: RE: The best object recognition app out there I know
Hi David, Here is just one example using Talking Goggles in Still Camera mode and then using Tap Tap See. I took the pictures in the complete dark, no lights other than my Flash on the iPhone 5S and I was doing the same picture holding the iPhone approx. in the same position for both shots The object was a 4 Litre pack of Jackson-Triggs Cabernet Sauvignon red wine which I just bought where Jackson-Triggs is the name of the winery in the Okanagan Valley of southern British Columbia and Cabermet Sauvignon is a variety of grape which produces red wine. When I took the picture with Talking goggles it red a bunch of information, some of it was spelled, but it included "Jackson Triggs Cabernet Sauvignon". When I took the picture with Tap Tap See all it said was "Jackson-Triggs". What is more, the result from Talking Goggles came back after about 2 seconds, the result from Tap Tap See took about 8 or 10 seconds. In reality it appeared as if Talking goggles started reading information basically immediately after I took the picture. Tap Tap See appeared to take a long time compared to Talking Goggles. I also used Talking Goggles recently in video mode when I was at home and on WiFi to go over about 8 or 10 pages of various documents including cards as in plastic cards similar to credit cards as well as my Canadian citizenship certificate, my HSA Open Water Scuba certificate, my University graduation certificate etc. Tap Tap See produced almost nothing for most of these whereas Talking Goggles in video mode identified enough words of any of the documentsv for me to know what they were. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know Well, that depends on what you require, and how you prefer to pay your costs. VizWiz will do the same as TapTapSee, and it even has the means for you to ask a question along with your picture. In fact, a question is required. It is a free app. It accesses a couple of the internet image databases to see if it can get a good match. It also sends the query to a volunteer for identification. And, you can choose which of the above you want it to do. However, because it accesses the image databases at free access, its queries do not have priority when access is in strong demand. Also, the volunteers are just that, people who are doing other things on their computers and have a window that pops up with your image and your question. If no volunteers are available, or if there are too many images waiting for identification, your query will take a considerable amount of time. I have gotten responses back immediately, and I have gotten responses back in a few minutes, and I have not gotten responses back at all. When I used it and TapTapSee, I usually try VizWiz first because I can ask the question. For money recognition, I always use LookTel Money Identifier. It is fast, accurate, and no data is sent. For product recognition of products I already have acquired good images for, I use LookTel Recognizer. I occasionally have sighted friends take pictures for my database. In all honesty, save when I used TapTapSee to compare it with VizWiz when it initially was released, I don't use the app. I had two reasons for my decision. First, because I knew people were playing with the app, and I knew the company was paying for every image, I did not want to increase the burden on the company when I could get alternative solutions to work. Second, I have always preferred asking the question because, the information I need is not necessarily the information a sighted identifier thinks I need. With barcode objects, I occasionally use DigitEyes. When out somewhere, I occasionally use CamFind because I know this product is general market, has ads to help fund it, and gives me product and price information. When I have good WiFi, I will occasionally use Talking Goggles. However, the company already went out once because Google changed the access for the video stream recognition matching, and as far as I know, this may happen again at any time. So, I do not want to become reliant on this product. On 9 Nov 2013, at 12:43, "Pablo Morales" <pablomorale...@gmail.com> wrote: so tab tab see still is the better then. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:44 PM Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know What's the expression? You get what you pay for. Talking Goggles is written for a much larger market of sighted people, so they can make money from ads that are targeted to their market. Also, you must use the video stream, so you need a good wifi connection. I have never gotten individual pictures to work with this app. Finally, as you found, the developer has not put much effort into accessibility. All that said, when the video stream is good and the wifi is strong, I have received nice success with this app. Because video data is data intensive, I usually will not use this app over 3g or 4g as it will more quickly use up my mobile data allotment for the month. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:15, "Pablo Morales" <pablomorale...@gmail.com> wrote: well, but at the first view, it is not very frendly for blind people. The buttons, and icons are labled very weird, and some buttons has not label, and I don't know how understand this app. ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Vece To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 9:57 AM Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know Hi Anne and List; I just installed Talking Goggles. If you work hard enough at perfecting something it should work. So, that's exactly what I'm going !d. Anthony Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s! On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Robin, I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food, but Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is. Cheers, Anne On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson <robin.christopher...@gmail.com> wrote: Dear listers I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind msgs flying around and I've read a few but by no means all so apols if this has been covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app that is Talking Goggles. I can't recall how much it is but it's certainly no more than a few dollars (if not free) - I can't check as I already own it - and it's certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has become, and yet I use it all the time to great effect. I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my computer stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all half way through something and before I went nuclear with the power button I thought I'd try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about IE having stopped working and the Send/Don't send thing. I know I could have got out of this by trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew that even hitting Escape on the wrong thing could have been bad news. And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as it's live video it's processing) you can just point it at anything and it usually reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it's not perfect but I also know that it's invaluable and doesn't have the drawbacks of either having to take multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or should that be plenty of pounds) for it either. 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