About viz wiz, I sent a picture of myself to them just to test it out and asked 
them what the image was. I got a response from a web worker saying image of the 
terrist, no joke, made me wonder if they were just giving me a smart elic 
answer just to blow me off, I am a human beeing, not a terrist.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Chittenden 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:23 PM
  Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know


  Well, that depends on what you require, and how you prefer to pay your costs.


  VizWiz will do the same as TapTapSee, and it even has the means for you to 
ask a question along with your picture. In fact, a question is required. It is 
a free app. It accesses a couple of the internet image databases to see if it 
can get a good match. It also sends the query to a volunteer for 
identification. And, you can choose which of the above you want it to do. 
However, because it accesses the image databases at free access, its queries do 
not have priority when access is in strong demand. Also, the volunteers are 
just that, people who are doing other things on their computers and have a 
window that pops up with your image and your question. If no volunteers are 
available, or if there are too many images waiting for identification, your 
query will take a considerable amount of time. I have gotten responses back 
immediately, and I have gotten responses back in a few minutes, and I have not 
gotten responses back at all. When I used it and TapTapSee, I usually try 
VizWiz first because I can ask the question.


  For money recognition, I always use LookTel Money Identifier. It is fast, 
accurate, and no data is sent.


  For product recognition of products I already have acquired good images for, 
I use LookTel Recognizer. I occasionally have sighted friends take pictures for 
my database.


  In all honesty, save when I used TapTapSee to compare it with VizWiz when it 
initially was released, I don't use the app. I had two reasons for my decision. 
First, because I knew people were playing with the app, and I knew the company 
was paying for every image, I did not want to increase the burden on the 
company when I could get alternative solutions to work. Second, I have always 
preferred asking the question because, the information I need is not 
necessarily the information a sighted identifier thinks I need.


  With barcode objects, I occasionally use DigitEyes.


  When out somewhere, I occasionally use CamFind because I know this product is 
general market, has ads to help fund it, and gives me product and price 
information.


  When I have good WiFi, I will occasionally use Talking Goggles. However, the 
company already went out once because Google changed the access for the video 
stream recognition matching, and as far as I know, this may happen again at any 
time. So, I do not want to become reliant on this product.
  On 9 Nov 2013, at 12:43, "Pablo Morales" <pablomorale...@gmail.com> wrote:


    so tab tab see still is the better then.

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      From: David Chittenden 
      To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
      Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:44 PM
      Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know


      What's the expression? You get what you pay for. Talking Goggles is 
written for a much larger market of sighted people, so they can make money from 
ads that are targeted to their market. Also, you must use the video stream, so 
you need a good wifi connection. I have never gotten individual pictures to 
work with this app. Finally, as you found, the developer has not put much 
effort into accessibility.


      All that said, when the video stream is good and the wifi is strong, I 
have received nice success with this app. Because video data is data intensive, 
I usually will not use this app over 3g or 4g as it will more quickly use up my 
mobile data allotment for the month.

      David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA 
      Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
      Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
      Sent from my iPhone

      On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:15, "Pablo Morales" <pablomorale...@gmail.com> wrote:


        well, but at the first view, it is not very frendly for blind people. 
The buttons, and icons are labled very weird, and some buttons has not label, 
and I don't know how understand this app.
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          From: Anthony Vece 
          To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
          Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 9:57 AM
          Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know


          Hi Anne and List;


          I just installed Talking Goggles.


          If you work hard enough at perfecting something it should work.


          So, that's exactly what I'm going !d.


          Anthony


          Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!

          On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


            Hello Robin,


            I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other 
object recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles 
is more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food, 
but Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.


            Cheers,


            Anne




            On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson 
<robin.christopher...@gmail.com> wrote:


              Dear listers
              I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and 
Camfind  msgs flying around and I’ve read a few but by no means all so apols if 
this has been covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app 
that is Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly no 
more than a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own it – and 
it’s certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has become, and 
yet I use it all the time to great effect.
              I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my 
computer stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all 
half way through something and before I went nuclear with the power button I 
thought I’d try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about IE 
having stopped working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I could have got 
out of this by trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew that even 
hitting Escape on the wrong thing could have been bad news.
              And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth 
(as it’s live video it’s processing) you can just point it at anything and it 
usually reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it’s not perfect but I also 
know that it’s invaluable and doesn’t have the drawbacks of either having to 
take multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or should that 
be plenty of pounds) for it either.
              I should end by saying that I’m not as familiar with the other 
apps as I am with this one so please don’t consider this as an anti-the-others 
msg, just a pro-Talking Goggles one.
              Thanks, Robin.


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