Hi:
I use TapTapSee. I haven't had any luck with Goggles.
On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Kellie and my lab pack <pebbles...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> I would appreciate tips on successfully using talking goggles as well. I have 
> heard of others success but haven’t achieved it myself. I tried both the 
> video and still camera mode and get nothing. I try holding the phone steady 
> and still receive no feedback. I really would like to have success with this 
> app but any tips on how to get it to even speak would be helpful. I have 
> tried waiting for 30 seconds and don’t have a sound. I know for sure that it 
> was pointed at text. 
> 
> Kellie, Guide Loki and retired July
> 
> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 4:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: The best object recognition app out there I know
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> 
> 
> Here is just one example using Talking Goggles in Still Camera mode and then 
> using Tap Tap See.
> 
> 
> 
> I took the pictures in the complete dark, no lights other than my Flash on 
> the iPhone 5S and I was doing the same picture holding the iPhone approx. in 
> the same position for both shots
> 
> 
> 
> The object was a 4 Litre pack of Jackson-Triggs Cabernet Sauvignon red wine 
> which I just bought where Jackson-Triggs is the name of the winery in the 
> Okanagan Valley of southern British Columbia and Cabermet Sauvignon is a 
> variety of grape which produces red wine.
> 
> 
> 
> When I took the picture with Talking goggles it red a bunch of information, 
> some of it was spelled, but it included “Jackson Triggs Cabernet Sauvignon”.
> 
> 
> 
> When I took the picture with Tap Tap See all it said was “Jackson-Triggs”.
> 
> 
> 
> What is more, the result from Talking Goggles came back after about 2 
> seconds, the result from Tap Tap See took about 8 or 10 seconds. In reality 
> it appeared as if Talking goggles started reading information basically 
> immediately after I took the picture. Tap Tap See appeared to take a long 
> time compared to Talking Goggles.
> 
> 
> 
> I also used Talking Goggles recently in video mode when I was at home and on 
> WiFi to go over about 8 or 10 pages of various documents including cards as 
> in plastic cards similar to credit cards as well as my Canadian citizenship 
> certificate, my HSA Open Water Scuba certificate, my University graduation 
> certificate etc.
> 
> 
> 
> Tap Tap See produced almost nothing for most of these whereas Talking Goggles 
> in video mode identified enough words of any of the documentsv for me to know 
> what they were.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> David Chittenden
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know
> 
> 
> 
> Well, that depends on what you require, and how you prefer to pay your costs.
> 
> 
> 
> VizWiz will do the same as TapTapSee, and it even has the means for you to 
> ask a question along with your picture. In fact, a question is required. It 
> is a free app. It accesses a couple of the internet image databases to see if 
> it can get a good match. It also sends the query to a volunteer for 
> identification. And, you can choose which of the above you want it to do. 
> However, because it accesses the image databases at free access, its queries 
> do not have priority when access is in strong demand. Also, the volunteers 
> are just that, people who are doing other things on their computers and have 
> a window that pops up with your image and your question. If no volunteers are 
> available, or if there are too many images waiting for identification, your 
> query will take a considerable amount of time. I have gotten responses back 
> immediately, and I have gotten responses back in a few minutes, and I have 
> not gotten responses back at all. When I used it and TapTapSee, I usually try 
> VizWiz first because I can ask the question.
> 
> 
> 
> For money recognition, I always use LookTel Money Identifier. It is fast, 
> accurate, and no data is sent.
> 
> 
> 
> For product recognition of products I already have acquired good images for, 
> I use LookTel Recognizer. I occasionally have sighted friends take pictures 
> for my database.
> 
> 
> 
> In all honesty, save when I used TapTapSee to compare it with VizWiz when it 
> initially was released, I don't use the app. I had two reasons for my 
> decision. First, because I knew people were playing with the app, and I knew 
> the company was paying for every image, I did not want to increase the burden 
> on the company when I could get alternative solutions to work. Second, I have 
> always preferred asking the question because, the information I need is not 
> necessarily the information a sighted identifier thinks I need.
> 
> 
> 
> With barcode objects, I occasionally use DigitEyes.
> 
> 
> 
> When out somewhere, I occasionally use CamFind because I know this product is 
> general market, has ads to help fund it, and gives me product and price 
> information.
> 
> 
> 
> When I have good WiFi, I will occasionally use Talking Goggles. However, the 
> company already went out once because Google changed the access for the video 
> stream recognition matching, and as far as I know, this may happen again at 
> any time. So, I do not want to become reliant on this product.
> On 9 Nov 2013, at 12:43, "Pablo Morales" <pablomorale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  so tab tab see still is the better then.
> 
> 
> 
>    ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
>    From: David Chittenden 
> 
>    To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> 
>    Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:44 PM
> 
>    Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know
> 
> 
> 
>    What's the expression? You get what you pay for. Talking Goggles is 
> written for a much larger market of sighted people, so they can make money 
> from ads that are targeted to their market. Also, you must use the video 
> stream, so you need a good wifi connection. I have never gotten individual 
> pictures to work with this app. Finally, as you found, the developer has not 
> put much effort into accessibility.
> 
> 
> 
>    All that said, when the video stream is good and the wifi is strong, I 
> have received nice success with this app. Because video data is data 
> intensive, I usually will not use this app over 3g or 4g as it will more 
> quickly use up my mobile data allotment for the month.
> 
>    David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA 
> 
>    Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> 
>    Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> 
>    Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>    On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:15, "Pablo Morales" <pablomorale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>      well, but at the first view, it is not very frendly for blind people. 
> The buttons, and icons are labled very weird, and some buttons has not label, 
> and I don't know how understand this app.
> 
>        ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
>        From: Anthony Vece 
> 
>        To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> 
>        Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 9:57 AM
> 
>        Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know
> 
> 
> 
>        Hi Anne and List;
> 
> 
> 
>        I just installed Talking Goggles.
> 
> 
> 
>        If you work hard enough at perfecting something it should work.
> 
> 
> 
>        So, that's exactly what I'm going !d.
> 
> 
> 
>        Anthony
> 
> 
> 
>        Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!
> 
> 
>        On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>          Hello Robin,
> 
> 
> 
>          I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other 
> object recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking 
> Goggles is more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of 
> dog food, but Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.
> 
> 
> 
>          Cheers,
> 
> 
> 
>          Anne
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>          On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson 
> <robin.christopher...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>          Dear listers
> 
>          I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  
> msgs flying around and I’ve read a few but by no means all so apols if this 
> has been covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app 
> that is Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly no 
> more than a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own it – 
> and it’s certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has 
> become, and yet I use it all the time to great effect.
> 
>          I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my 
> computer stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and 
> all half way through something and before I went nuclear with the power 
> button I thought I’d try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message 
> about IE having stopped working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I could 
> have got out of this by trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew that 
> even hitting Escape on the wrong thing could have been bad news.
> 
>          And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as 
> it’s live video it’s processing) you can just point it at anything and it 
> usually reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it’s not perfect but I 
> also know that it’s invaluable and doesn’t have the drawbacks of either 
> having to take multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or 
> should that be plenty of pounds) for it either.
> 
>          I should end by saying that I’m not as familiar with the other apps 
> as I am with this one so please don’t consider this as an anti-the-others 
> msg, just a pro-Talking Goggles one.
> 
>          Thanks, Robin.
> 
> 
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