Clearly, Christopher, you don't understand the difference. You are comparing apples to oranges.
DVD Audio Extractor nor Tivo incur any costs when you extract audio from one of your DVD's or record a movie. All that activity takes place locally, it doesn't matter to them whether you extract one or a thousand DVD's. They don't have any additional costs whether you are a light or heavy user of their program. The only thing they are providing you are free software updates when an update is released. Provisioning this to an existing user is not really incurring an added cost to them, except for you getting the program from their server, I suppose. The update enhances the program and hopefully makes it marketable to new buyers, which is where they derive their continued revenue growth. This is not the same model as TTS App uses. In the case of Tap Tap See, every time you send a picture to them, they are incurring a cost to have someone identify it. Therefore, if you recognize a thousand pictures, you are costing them a hundred times as much as someone who only recognizes ten pictures with it. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher Chaltain To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:03 PM Subject: Re: Tap Tap See There are plenty of business models where paying a one time fee goes towards supporting an ongoing service. I paid a one time fee for DVD Audio Extractor and now I get updates and support for life. You can purchase TiVo for life with a one time fee. I paid a one time fee for my iPhone and now I get updates to IOS for no charge. I don't use this MLB app, but I'm not sure there aren't ongoing costs, such as support, upgrades, licensing fees and so on. I suspect that it's a combination of the high cost of image recognition combined with the relatively low volume of sales such an app targeted at the blind would generate. On 11/10/2013 11:14 AM, Steve wrote: I wish someone would put a stop to this insanity. This is a free market, you folks have a choice. Pay the price, or don't use a very useful app. Only a few people seem to understand that the developer has to pay the people that recognize the images on a per-image basis. Therefore, paying a one=-time fee for the app has nothing to do with a reasonable pricing model in this case. It is not the same as paying for a season's access on MLB where there are no ongoing costs once you pay for the app. Also, I take issue with another comment about other developers taking the blind into consideration in their image recognition program. As far as I can tell, that particular program requires the assistance of a sighted person to set up a database, so this is in no way at all comparable to what Tap Tap See is doing. Of course, your other option is VizWiz, but it is all dependent on the type of quality response you get and how long you are willing to wait before getting a response from volunteers. As economist Milton Friedman famously said "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch". Personally, I don't use Tap Tap See that often, so I am going to be paying for 100 pictures because it is responsive and generally accurate. I do hope they can add either some checkboxes or a textbox to help us tailor the response we get from the Terks. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Logan To: Vi Phone Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:35 AM Subject: Tap Tap See It saddens me that the developers have decided to move to what I consider to be price gouging, just my opinion. It also amazes me that this community doesn’t seem to mind this time. However, wen the Seeing Eye GPS came out with their model many on this list were outraged. Am I in no way asking for something to be free, however if you are a heavy user of the product and go with the monthly subscription, you will be paying $120/year, as far as I know that would be the highest price of any blindness specific app. I would have rather they just go with a $4.99 or even $6.99 price for the app and call it good. My most used app, MLB At Bat only cost $19.99/year and I use that multiple times every day. I would have rather seen a yearly subscription in that range. Hopefully they will reconsider the pricing model in the future. It is an awesome product, however I believe it could be priced better. Thanks for listening. Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. 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