I would prefer the lack of access to the file structure over being able to add viruses and hack phones more easily. Also, as much as I hate it, ITunes is great when you have more than one phone.
On 6/3/14, Joseph FreeTech <joseph.freet...@gmail.com> wrote: > Good point Neal. I'm also thinking not exposing the iOS file system probably > > serves to prevent viruses or file corruption as well as preventing problems > > with accidental or deliberate deletion of important system files. Yes, I too > > would like an easier way to move files back and forth, but I also like that > > iOS devices simply work and are extremely reliable. The reason there are so > > many listers here and overall iDevice users both young and older is because > > of iOS' ease of use, stability, and reliability. In other words, apple seems > > to have the mindset of "you drive the car, and let us worry about the > performance and maintenance." For anyone who has ever worked with hotrod > cars and motorcycles, you will know it's time consuming and a headache as > well as endless tinkering--much like Windows. At some point one matures and > > ends up simply buying a reliable car that just works. <Smile>. > > To be honest, once I changed my mindset to my iDevice being more of a > consumption device rather than a production device, I've been much happier > as I'm using it accordingly and not trying to force it to be something it is > > not. > > Joseph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 6:43 PM > Subject: RE: Accessibility Features in iOS8 > > > I'm guessing the lack of a file system was not an oversight. How many > people > would stop using iTunes if they could move files back and forth from their > device to their computer or other devices? I'm thinking Apple did this > intentionally for this and other reasons to protect their proprietary > personality. After trying to purchase DropBox, which would have gotten them > a lot closer to making file transfers easier, they are now about to offer > their own version of a DropBox like system. It's not necessarily a bad > thing. It's just an Apple way of doing things. But I don't think a company > like Apple with all its brain power would have simply forgotten to include > a > file system. > > > > Neal > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Christopher J Chaltain > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 8:25 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8 > > > > I'm not sure iCloud Drive would satisfy those people who want to be able to > access their iPhone like a thumb drive. iCloud Drive would still only work > on an app by app basis. You couldn't copy your music over in the folder > structure you want, unless the Music app supported iCloud Drive and then 5G > won't go very far. > > I too would like this feature myself, i.e. accessing the underlying folder > and file structure of the iPhone, but this isn't an oversight on Apple's > part. It's part of the design of the iPhone. I'd be surprised if Apple were > to change this any time soon, and for me at least, it just became part of > the decision making process. I'm getting an easier to use, more accessible > and more secure device at the cost of being able to access the underlying > file structure of the iPhone. > > On 6/3/2014 7:16 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > > Well, iOS devices are not thumb drives, and I doubt you will ever be able > to > use one as such without a third-party app of some kind. That said, if an > app > integrates the upcoming iCloud Drive option, you will have basically what > you are seeking, on an app-by-app basis. For example, say you edit a PDF in > a Mac app. you can drop it anywhere in your iCloud Drive, then use some app > on iOS to browse to and open that file. If Voice Dream were to support > iCloud Drive, imagine dumping zipped Daisy books into the drive, then > opening them in VDR. I hope I'm making sense. > > On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I would really like the ability to do file and folder management and to be > able to transfer files of all types from my PC or laptop to my iPhone as if > it were an external drive. I resent having to use iTunes for any > file/folder management task and would dearly love to tell Apple to take > iTunes and shove it way up where the sun don't shine. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:08 AM, "RobH." <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > File management: I know there are apps that do it, so sure, why Apple > don't > > provide something at system level has always bugged me. I have used the > apps, but having such a fundamental feature built-in, would be a monumental > and long-overdue benefit. > > JMO, RobH. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0...@charter.net> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 3:18 PM > Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8 > > > Certainly, the ability to have other keyboards system wide is a great > improvement. There wre 2 things I was hoping for that it appears we > will not be getting. First, the ability to install other voices and use > them system wide. Each person has their own voice preferences, but at > this point, any new voices that are installed can only be used with one > application. The other feature I wish we would have gotten is file > management. As far as I know, I O S is the only platform where copying > and moving files is very difficult. > Original message: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I just watched the keynote and the one thing I was hoping for, does not > appear to be coming to iOS 8. Hopefully, I'm wrong but I fear not. > > > > > > I would truly love to be able to organize the threads in the Messages app; > you know, be able to create folders so I can save important messages. All > I > saw in the keynote was the ability to name threads in group messages. > Again, I'm hoping I'm wrong and they will bring this feature to iOS 8 but > ... > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Christopher Hallsworth > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:02 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8 > > > > > > No just the Fall. If it's like previous years mid September. > > > > > > Christopher Hallsworth > Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu > > > > > > On 03/06/2014 08:58, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy wrote: > Did anyone give a precise date for the release of ios8? > > > > > > Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:56, "RobH." <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > It will be interesting to see just how many make the leap from iOs 6.* > straight up to 8.*. > > > > > > Rh. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@icloud.com> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 2:19 AM > Subject: Accessibility Features in iOS8 > > > > > > > Hi all, > I just wanted to let everyone know the major new iOS8 accessibility > features we know so far. This is from the Keynote - I don't even have > the beta, so I can't break an NDA. > > > > > > * Better Zoom > * Touch ID and a countdown timer as ways to exit Assistive Touch > * multi-device support for compatible hearing aids > * the Alex voice from OS X (possibly for Siri, or VO, we don't know > for > sure) > * six-key braille input on-screen (no clue what this will look like) > * third-party keyboard support for the whole system, and Fleksy as > said on Twitter that it will be among the first to take advantage of > this. 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