That's a good point, I too am glad of the security. However, how does one
explain the fact that the Mac does have a file system and there is still
very good security there. Meanwhile, there has to be an update to Windows
security more often than I can keep up with.
Neal
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 9:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8
I would prefer the lack of access to the file structure over being able to
add viruses and hack phones more easily. Also, as much as I hate it, ITunes
is great when you have more than one phone.
On 6/3/14, Joseph FreeTech <joseph.freet...@gmail.com> wrote:
Good point Neal. I'm also thinking not exposing the iOS file system
probably
serves to prevent viruses or file corruption as well as preventing
problems
with accidental or deliberate deletion of important system files. Yes,
I too
would like an easier way to move files back and forth, but I also like
that
iOS devices simply work and are extremely reliable. The reason there
are so
many listers here and overall iDevice users both young and older is
because
of iOS' ease of use, stability, and reliability. In other words, apple
seems
to have the mindset of "you drive the car, and let us worry about the
performance and maintenance." For anyone who has ever worked with
hotrod cars and motorcycles, you will know it's time consuming and a
headache as well as endless tinkering--much like Windows. At some
point one matures and
ends up simply buying a reliable car that just works. <Smile>.
To be honest, once I changed my mindset to my iDevice being more of a
consumption device rather than a production device, I've been much
happier as I'm using it accordingly and not trying to force it to be
something it is
not.
Joseph
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From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 6:43 PM
Subject: RE: Accessibility Features in iOS8
I'm guessing the lack of a file system was not an oversight. How many
people would stop using iTunes if they could move files back and forth
from their device to their computer or other devices? I'm thinking
Apple did this intentionally for this and other reasons to protect
their proprietary personality. After trying to purchase DropBox, which
would have gotten them a lot closer to making file transfers easier,
they are now about to offer their own version of a DropBox like
system. It's not necessarily a bad thing. It's just an Apple way of
doing things. But I don't think a company like Apple with all its
brain power would have simply forgotten to include a file system.
Neal
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Christopher J Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8
I'm not sure iCloud Drive would satisfy those people who want to be
able to access their iPhone like a thumb drive. iCloud Drive would
still only work on an app by app basis. You couldn't copy your music
over in the folder structure you want, unless the Music app supported
iCloud Drive and then 5G won't go very far.
I too would like this feature myself, i.e. accessing the underlying
folder and file structure of the iPhone, but this isn't an oversight
on Apple's part. It's part of the design of the iPhone. I'd be
surprised if Apple were to change this any time soon, and for me at
least, it just became part of the decision making process. I'm getting
an easier to use, more accessible and more secure device at the cost
of being able to access the underlying file structure of the iPhone.
On 6/3/2014 7:16 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
Well, iOS devices are not thumb drives, and I doubt you will ever be
able to use one as such without a third-party app of some kind. That
said, if an app integrates the upcoming iCloud Drive option, you will
have basically what you are seeking, on an app-by-app basis. For
example, say you edit a PDF in a Mac app. you can drop it anywhere in
your iCloud Drive, then use some app on iOS to browse to and open that
file. If Voice Dream were to support iCloud Drive, imagine dumping
zipped Daisy books into the drive, then opening them in VDR. I hope
I'm making sense.
On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:
I would really like the ability to do file and folder management and
to be able to transfer files of all types from my PC or laptop to my
iPhone as if it were an external drive. I resent having to use
iTunes for any file/folder management task and would dearly love to
tell Apple to take iTunes and shove it way up where the sun don't shine.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:08 AM, "RobH." <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:
File management: I know there are apps that do it, so sure, why Apple
don't
provide something at system level has always bugged me. I have used
the apps, but having such a fundamental feature built-in, would be a
monumental and long-overdue benefit.
JMO, RobH.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0...@charter.net>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8
Certainly, the ability to have other keyboards system wide is a great
improvement. There wre 2 things I was hoping for that it appears we
will not be getting. First, the ability to install other voices and
use them system wide. Each person has their own voice preferences, but
at this point, any new voices that are installed can only be used with
one application. The other feature I wish we would have gotten is file
management. As far as I know, I O S is the only platform where copying
and moving files is very difficult.
Original message:
Hello,
I just watched the keynote and the one thing I was hoping for, does
not appear to be coming to iOS 8. Hopefully, I'm wrong but I fear not.
I would truly love to be able to organize the threads in the Messages
app; you know, be able to create folders so I can save important
messages. All I saw in the keynote was the ability to name threads in
group messages.
Again, I'm hoping I'm wrong and they will bring this feature to iOS 8
but ...
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8
No just the Fall. If it's like previous years mid September.
Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu
On 03/06/2014 08:58, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy wrote:
Did anyone give a precise date for the release of ios8?
Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:56, "RobH." <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:
It will be interesting to see just how many make the leap from iOs 6.*
straight up to 8.*.
Rh.
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From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@icloud.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 2:19 AM
Subject: Accessibility Features in iOS8
Hi all,
I just wanted to let everyone know the major new iOS8 accessibility
features we know so far. This is from the Keynote - I don't even have
the beta, so I can't break an NDA.
* Better Zoom
* Touch ID and a countdown timer as ways to exit Assistive Touch
* multi-device support for compatible hearing aids
* the Alex voice from OS X (possibly for Siri, or VO, we don't know
for
sure)
* six-key braille input on-screen (no clue what this will look like)
* third-party keyboard support for the whole system, and Fleksy as
said on Twitter that it will be among the first to take advantage of
this. Yes, Fleksy will soon be available at any point in iOS when a
keyboard appears, from Mail to the App store to, well, anywhere!
That's all I can think of for now, but between those and the standard
iOS8 features, this is shaping up to be a very, very exciting release!
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