Who is him as shown below?
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 22:17:06 -0400
Subject: Re: Announcing caller ID
If we all him and others like him he will go away.
Sent from my iPhone 5s!
On Jun 21, 2014, at 8:14 PM, "DJ" <grou...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes indeed, and to add to all below, attacking us on this list
who use Voice
Over is not productive for your cause. We don't dictate what
Apple or other
developers include pertaining to features. Yes, we can possibly
influence
future decisions, but we are not the developers, and we do not
control
Apple.
DJ
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf
Of alberto
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 4:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Announcing caller ID
Hello Sieghard I second all you said I couldn't of said it
better myself.
I believe if anyone needs to advocate it is a good thing, but we
should
never take it to extremes because it never gets us good results
as it may in
a well controlled manner and keeping all possibilities in
consideration.
This list is made up of about 95 percent blind only members and
some of
those with some hearing loss, but like you say thanks to apple
we do have
voice over and along with voice over they also decided to add
braille access
with out having to do a separate application for this.
On Jun 17, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca>
wrote:
Hi Todd,
I understand where you are coming from and that the challenges
you
face are different and in many ways tougher than those somebody
has who is
"just"
blind. However, this list is not or should not be a platform
for
political issues and what I said has nothing to do with pride.
However, the hard fact of life is that blind people are a very
small
minority and deafblind people are an even smaller minority. I
think
for the most part we should be grateful to Apple for setting
such a
high bar for accessibility on one of the most popular out of the
box
devices; this was unheard of until 2009 when Apple included
Voiceover
as a standard feature in iOS. Yes, I know you don't care about
Voiceover, but remember that braille support which you do care
about is
also part of Voiceover.
Now, should we be grateful for what Apple did and not encourage
them
to improve it? No, of course not, and part of the purpose of
this list
is to help the members to be proficient with their iDevices so
they
can provide objective feedback to Apple via the
accessibil...@apple.com
email address.
Where many companies require you to use some complicated web
form to
provide such feedback, Apple has also made this extremely easy
and I'm
quite sure these emails do get read, they are considered and
categorized as well as prioritized.
I don't know if there is a specific list for deafblind iDevice
users,
but if there is not maybe you should consider starting one since
you
appear to care a lot about this. I don't, of course, want to
imply
that you have no place on this list, far from it, but I think
while
there are quite a few people on the list who do have some
hearing
loss, Voiceover users by far make up the majority of this list
and
hence it is not surprising if the focus of the discussions is on
Voiceover.
Regards,
Sieghard
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On
Behalf Of todd patkus
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 12:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Announcing caller ID
Sieghard,
It is easy to say such. But you miss many points here.
The point here is: we each have our right for something
accomplished.
Yes, it is part of the civil rights act.
I really care less about that Voiceover! So what!!!!
That is completely useless to me! Apple should know better than
that,
period!
I feel very compelled to speak out for deafblind folks, not you
proud
blind folks!
Think twice. That is it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 12:30:22 -0700
Subject: RE: Announcing caller ID
Todd,
I don't think it's feasible for Apple to put in Settings to
allow
for the
smallest customization which a very small percentage of users
might want. I
think most people want Voiceover to announce who is calling
without having
to pick up the phone and fiddle around with it before they hear
the number.
This would be like saying Apple should put in something for
sighted users so
that the caller's number is only displayed when they touch the
screen.
If the phone is across the room, if it is in my pocket or maybe
I
have dirty
or wet hands the call probably has gone to Voicemail by the time
I check the
screen.If somebody doesn't want this announced because they are
in a meeting
then they probably wouldn't want the phone to ring either and
it's an easy
thing to flick the Mute switch which means the phone will not
ring and
Voiceover won't say anything.
Regards,
Sieghard
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf
Of todd patkus
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 12:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Announcing caller ID
Then, there should be a feature Apple should definitely enhance
in their
iOS!
----- Original Message -----
From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 12:16:52 -0700
Subject: RE: Announcing caller ID
No, there is not.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Rami
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Announcing caller ID
Hello
Is there a way to stop voiceOver from announcing the caller ID
automatically when receiving an incoming call?
Thanks in advance.
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