Thanks, I think I see what you mean.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alex Hall
Sent: 25 June 2014 11:39
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ICloud Account

Your Apple ID has nothing to do with your cell carrier. You have one account 
now, because you are downloading apps and using iCloud. Creating a new 
@icloud.com<http://icloud.com> address will make a second one that is still 
tied to, yet separate from, your first one. It doesn't really matter; the 
bottom line is that you cannot then switch to using your iCloud email as the 
username for your Apple ID if you ever wanted to do so.
On Jun 25, 2014, at 2:53 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) 
<steven.hi...@nhs.net<mailto:steven.hi...@nhs.net>> wrote:


Thanks, not sure what you mena about it being my second Apple i.d. this is the 
only i.d. that I have, the phone didn't come with one and I am on pay as you 
go, no contract.


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: 24 June 2014 23:04
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: ICloud Account

Yes, if you just sign into any Mac or iOS device with your account, any data 
you had synced will appear. This won't sync installed apps, but basic content 
and even some data in supported apps will all work fine.

For mail, you need an iCloud account. You create one by, as you said, checking 
the "mail" checkbox in iCloud settings. Confusingly this will technically be a 
second Apple ID, so you will not be able to use this new address as your ID to 
replace the one you use now. Still, the process is simple enough.

I am not sure how well iCloud.com<http://icloud.com/> works for contact 
editing, but you can go in and give it a try as soon as you enable contact 
syncing over iCloud and let your phone push its content to Apple's servers. If 
you use Outlook, I believe Apple offers iCloud integration via their iCloud 
Control Panel; you could manage contacts that way if the website doesn't work 
out.
On Jun 24, 2014, at 4:32 PM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) 
<steven.hi...@nhs.net<mailto:steven.hi...@nhs.net>> wrote:



Thanks, that is brilliant, so in theary, if I back up the contacts and change 
my phone, setting up the account on the new phone will synchronise them back?

I tried to go in to mail but no account was there e.g. inbox or anything.
I added a new ICloud account but it then said that account was already added, 
do I need to go in to settings and tick mail or something so that I can then go 
in to mail and use my ICloud account to send and receive messages etc?
Can you edit your contacts by logging in to the ICloud?  I jhave lots of 
contacts that I would like to add and also add email addresses to the existing 
ones which I haven't done until now, it may be quicker to edit these if I can 
do it using my PC and a full keyboard, I am still quite slow with the touch 
screen.

Thanks again for all your kind help, the more I get in to my IPhone, the more 
it amazes me to be honest, it is so powerful and you can do so much with it, 
more like a pocket laptop than a phone :)
And Apple write the screen reader which is a real bonus in my opinion.


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: 24 June 2014 21:22
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: ICloud Account

Yes to both. Once you start syncing anything (contacts, calendars, reminders, 
Safari, etc) with iCloud, the data is backed up each time you change it and the 
app sycs. Full iCloud backups of your device happen when the device is 
connected to wifi and locked, but backups of iCloud-synced data go on all the 
time.

You can log into www.icloud.com<http://www.icloud.com/> and access the things 
you normally can on your phone, so long as you are backing them up. That site 
is not great with screen readers, but most of it is usable. However, all this 
data syncs to iCloud devices, not just the site. So, when I add contacts on my 
Mac, my phone has them as well, for instance. Or if you had an iPad as well, 
you could set up some calendar appointments on that and they would appear on 
your phone.
On Jun 24, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) 
<steven.hi...@nhs.net<mailto:steven.hi...@nhs.net>> wrote:




Hi friends,

I have just set myself up with an ICloud account, I did it using the wizard on 
the phone.
In the settings there ar some check boxes, if I select the contacts, does this 
mean that my contacts will be copied from the phone to the ICloud account so 
that I can use it as a backup?
Can I i edit the contact information on the ICloud and then update and 
synchronise them back to the phone with the changes?
Please excuse my ignorance, I am a new IPhone user and still finding my way 
around.

Take care all.


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