Hi, Both Prizmo and TextGrabber can deal with text which is inverted and, for that matter, sideways on. Obviously, you get the best results if you have the paper up the right way, but they will both deal with it regardless. Sandy
Sent from my iPhone > On 8 Jul 2014, at 22:59, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: > > Well, I can't use OCR on my I phone at the moment as nothing has worked for > me. I have no views about the KNFB reader as I'd like to know, if a blind > person can't hold their phone still or the page is the wrong way round, how > can this new thing work. A friend of mine demonstrated the one he had on his > Nokia phone and it didn't matter that he put the page the wrong way it was > still scanned. I didn't know that this new thing was coming out until I > joined this list a few days ago. > > Kawal. >> On 7 Jul 2014, at 01:57, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Yes but my gosh, access note was overpriced, and under featured. Look, you >> have to have a bluetooth keyboard or braille display to even get all the >> "benefits" that it offers. It doesn't open pdf files, it doesn't open epub >> files, my gosh its terrible! >> Devin Prater >> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com >> >> >> >>> On Jul 6, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, Apple did all of that, but at the same time they use a lot of >>> proprietary hardware and software which makes a lot of their devices and >>> accessories a lot more expensive than the competition and yet people have >>> no problems forking out $30 or $35 for a stupid little Lightning to 30 PIN >>> adapter which is roughly the size of a double A battery or a 3 foot piece >>> of cable with a USB plug on one end and a 30-Pin or Lightning plug on the >>> other. A comparible Micro USB cable would cost about $5 or $8. >>> I don't really blame Apple for this, they charge what people are willing to >>> pay, but I am sure KNFB put a lot of time and expertise in developing the >>> iOS version of KNFB Reader and from what I have heard so far it may do some >>> things which Prizmo or Text Grabber won't do so I think once again we >>> should all just wait until the app is released before passing the guilty >>> verdict. $99 is expensive for most apps, but I have seen other apps on the >>> App Store which cost that and much more and which are made for a particular >>> target market. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghardthere are other specialized >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >>> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 3:58 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App >>> >>> One of the things I really like about Apple, iOS in particular, is that it >>> has successfully allowed us to escape from the old business model of paying >>> a lot of money for assistive products. No longer do we have to pay a high >>> price to access our screens because Apple included a free access package. >>> No longer do we have to pay a high price for OCR apps because sighted >>> people, who use and require the same apps, only need to pay a few dollars >>> for it and, therefore, so do we. In my opinion, and this is just my >>> opinion, the marketing department of KNFB is doing us a tremendous >>> disservice by trying to bring back the 1980's and 1990's business model of >>> how assistive technology is distributed. >>> >>> Feel free to visit my new Web site >>> http://www.DavidGoldfield.info >>> >>> Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile >>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 >>> >>> Visit my blog >>> http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com >>> >>> Follow me on Twitter >>> http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield >>> >>> >>> David Goldfield, >>> Founder and Peer Coordinator >>> >>> Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired >>> On 7/6/2014 6:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> All I can say is: there better be a demo version. Offer ten scans, pop up >>> alerts every minute, limit some functions... Somehow, though, they need to >>> release a lite version. If I'm going to drop half the cost of a new iPod >>> Touch on one app, I want to be absolutely sure it will meet my needs first. >>> If they offer only the $99 app with no way of testing it, well, that's just >>> a bad idea. >>> On Jul 6, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Feliciano G <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Other platform OCR applications cost over $200. This is not priced too high >>> if it competes with the other OCR applications. I am curious on what it can >>> really do. I hear it can OCR text from 20ft away. >>> >>> Regards, Feliciano >>> Twitter: @Theblindman12v www.twitter.com/theblindman12v >>> >>> Sent from the Super-iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 6, 2014, at 3:36 PM, "'David Goldfield' via VIPhone" >>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> In my opinion, the price of this app, if it is indeed $99.00, is insanely >>> high and it won't be on my phone for that price. However, ultimately the >>> market, as it always does, will decide. I know some will purchase it at >>> this price. If enough people don't, then the folks at KNFB will have to >>> make some decisions about the price. If enough people buy it at $99.00, >>> then the app will likely remain at that price for some time. >>> >>> >>> Feel free to visit my new Web site >>> http://www.DavidGoldfield.info >>> >>> Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile >>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 >>> >>> Visit my blog >>> http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com >>> >>> Follow me on Twitter >>> http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield >>> >>> >>> David Goldfield, >>> Founder and Peer Coordinator >>> >>> Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired >>> On 7/6/2014 6:32 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: >>> These companies just don't get it. >>> Most people like accessibility off the shelf. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone 5s! >>> >>> On Jul 6, 2014, at 5:32 PM, "Betty Emmons" <bettycemm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> for that price it better do tha laundry, wash the dishes and clean the >>> house. while I'm thinking of it maybe drive me where I want to go. >>> Betty Emmons >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Richard Turner >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 4:10 PM >>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App >>> >>> If it was $30 I might consider it if other demos show equal results in >>> speed and accuracy, but $99? They must be on some pretty amazing drugs to >>> think people will pay that much for something that is only faster by a few >>> seconds than apps like TextGrabber or Prizmo. >>> Just my opinion. >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> "Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education." - Victor Hugo >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 6, 2014, at 12:04 PM, "Andy Baracco" <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote: >>> >>> It was announced that the KNFB Reader app for the iPhone will cost $99 and >>> will be available by the end of August. >>> Andy >>> I'm not wearing a diaper, so don't try to change me. >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >>> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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