It seems to me that it's the NFB you are opposed to as much as the resolution! That's your right, but when you stray into attacks on any organization, any well reasoned objectivity for which you might be aiming goes by the wayside. Personally, I'm opposed to this resolution simply because, as it is currently worded, I don't feel that it will do the work for which it was intended!
You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Jul 10, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote: > Completely agree with those who are saying Apple is being unfairly targeted. > Google fails miserably when you compare accessibility to Apple. And the NFB > is a joke, every time I have contacted them about something they never get > back to me. Considering Congress passed the 21st Century Communications Act > two years ago, and I still can't get someone to tell me why I can't receive > the described video feeds, there isn't a lot of stock I put in the NFB > getting legislation passed when it isn't enforced. And weren't all products > manufactured as of November 2013 suppose to be accessible to the blind? How's > that working out? I have yet to read about one T.V. or set top box that has > come out to have any kind of voice for the blind, and I'm betting there has > been a new T.V. released since November. Just my thoughts. > On Jul 10, 2014, at 11:45 AM, DJ <grou...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Scott, this is true. And what people should also remember is that what >> might be accessible to you might not be accessible to me. Some people claim >> that an app is not accessible because they can't get it to do what ever it >> is they want it to do, but in some cases what they didn't know is that if >> they had just been brave enough to try that one unlabeled button on the >> bottom of the screen, they would have found the success they were looking >> for. Yes, quite often an app is truly not accessible, but often it's a lack >> of knowledge or a person's fear which keeps said person from realizing that >> an app is more accessible than they thought. >> >> DJ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Scott Duck >> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 9:29 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Advocates for blind, deaf want even more from Apple >> >> Hi All, >> Perhaps Apple could give some indication as to the accessibility of an app >> in the app store but I would say that is as far as their responsibility >> should go. Yes, many apps could be much more accessible but some apps, >> because of their very visual nature, are not accessible and never will be. >> The notion that all apps should be made accessible is completely ridiculous. >> As blind people, we do have some obstacles that simply can never be removed. >> That's just life. >> Scott Duck >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Bill Gallik >> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 6:41 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Advocates for blind, deaf want even more from Apple >> >> Here, here, Sieghard! >> >> Well said, very well said indeed! >> >> BTW: I myself am totally blind, have been since 1995, some folks seem to >> have a "Don Quixote" mentality and choose to "tilt at windmills" regardless >> as to the efficacy of that tilt. 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