I'm not sure I'd say "Google fails miserably" when compared to Apple's
accessibility. I picked up a Nexus 7 recently. I'm still getting used to
it, and it definitely behaves differently than an iPhone, but when
comparing the two, I wouldn't say the Nexus 7 fails miserably compared
to the iPhone. There are even some accessibility aspects I prefer over
Apple's way of doing things.
I'm running Android 4.4.4 on my Nexus, and I know Android has made a lot
of accessibility advances over the last few releases. There are also a
lot of expectations on Android 5, which was just released as a
developers preview recently. Samsung has also added some accessibility
features on top of Android on their hand sets making for a very good
initial experience for a blind smart phone user.
I'm not putting away my iPhone any time soon, but I think we need to be
careful making sweeping statements about the state of accessibility on
other platforms. It takes away from what might otherwise be a valid point.
On 07/10/2014 01:58 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:
Completely agree with those who are saying Apple is being unfairly targeted.
Google fails miserably when you compare accessibility to Apple. And the NFB is
a joke, every time I have contacted them about something they never get back to
me. Considering Congress passed the 21st Century Communications Act two years
ago, and I still can't get someone to tell me why I can't receive the described
video feeds, there isn't a lot of stock I put in the NFB getting legislation
passed when it isn't enforced. And weren't all products manufactured as of
November 2013 suppose to be accessible to the blind? How's that working out? I
have yet to read about one T.V. or set top box that has come out to have any
kind of voice for the blind, and I'm betting there has been a new T.V. released
since November. Just my thoughts.
On Jul 10, 2014, at 11:45 AM, DJ <grou...@gmail.com> wrote:
Scott, this is true. And what people should also remember is that what
might be accessible to you might not be accessible to me. Some people claim
that an app is not accessible because they can't get it to do what ever it
is they want it to do, but in some cases what they didn't know is that if
they had just been brave enough to try that one unlabeled button on the
bottom of the screen, they would have found the success they were looking
for. Yes, quite often an app is truly not accessible, but often it's a lack
of knowledge or a person's fear which keeps said person from realizing that
an app is more accessible than they thought.
DJ
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Hi All,
Perhaps Apple could give some indication as to the accessibility of an app
in the app store but I would say that is as far as their responsibility
should go. Yes, many apps could be much more accessible but some apps,
because of their very visual nature, are not accessible and never will be.
The notion that all apps should be made accessible is completely ridiculous.
As blind people, we do have some obstacles that simply can never be removed.
That's just life.
Scott Duck
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Subject: Re: Advocates for blind, deaf want even more from Apple
Here, here, Sieghard!
Well said, very well said indeed!
BTW: I myself am totally blind, have been since 1995, some folks seem to
have a "Don Quixote" mentality and choose to "tilt at windmills" regardless
as to the efficacy of that tilt. Apple, while not perfect (and just what of
a organic nature is perfect?), has made a real commitment to including
disabled customers in the circle of technology.
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