I mean, in terms of reading functionalities. Speech can do more in reading
terms than braille - with or without speech muted. The Read To end or read from
cursor position commands simply mean that the braille display flies down the
document without giving you a chance to read it properly, whereas with speech
you do get a fair shake.
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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: Knitting Apps Re: Installing IOS 8 over 7
What do you mean when you say that you wish braille displays could be more
independent of VoiceOver speech? You can turn speech off and just use braille.
Thanks,
Ari
On Sep 11, 2014, at 1:04 PM, "Flor Lynch" <florl...@iol.ie> wrote:
Braille displays are under the control of voiceover, and as such are not
Bluetooth keyboards per se. (They are Bluetooth 'devices'. Therefore, unless
the Bluetooth situation overall is bad, I don't think the problems will extend
to that use which, as i indicate, is controlled generally by voiceover and its
Braille settings. Hoping that voiceover itself is not rendered buggy!) What i
will say, is, that i would like to see Braille displays being a bit less
dependent on Voiceover speech settings. (Up to now, or at least in iOS7, speech
is as No. 1; braille is No. 2.)
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From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:09 PM
Subject: RE: Knitting Apps Re: Installing IOS 8 over 7
I am not a braille user, but there are definitely some bluetooth keyboard
issues which are not pretty. If you rely on a bluetooth keyboard heavily I
would wait just a bit to see what happens.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jane
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Knitting Apps Re: Installing IOS 8 over 7
Hi. :)
I missed that part. I don't always read descriptions as thoroughly as i
should. I am as guilty as the next guy of skipping over them, or only hearing
small parts of them.
I keep hearing rumors that if we use bluetooth keyboards, we shoulnt'd
upate, but I don't know if that applies to Refreshable Braille displays. I
suppose you, or no one else really, can say.
Jane
On Sep 11, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
Hi Jane,
I don’t think the “Supports only iOS 7” means that it won’t support iOS
8, but rather that it won’t work on anything before iOS7. There are some apps
which are like that now and over time more of them will not support iOS
versions before iOS 7. If you read the entire description, here is what it says
at the very end:
Compatibility:
Requires iOS 7.0 or later.
Compatible with iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch. This app is optimized for
iPhone 5.
Having said that, maybe hold off just a bit before installing iOS 8,
doing it on the first or second day of the release is probably a bad idea
anyways since hundreds of millions of people around the world will try to
upgrade and Apple’s servers will be totally bogged down. Also you might want to
wait until the first wave of feedback comes in.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jane
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Knitting Apps Re: Installing IOS 8 over 7
Its called Knit. I use it to keep track of projects. You put in a
project name, you add the number of rows for the project. You can even add the
number of stitches per row, if you want to keep that close track. Here's the
iTunes store link:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/knit-knitting-counter-for-ios/id473675243?mt=8
some of it is labeled really well. For instance, you can pick the right
kind of picture to put for each project because they are clearly and correctly
labeled. I know this because I had my sighted child check. She is a
knitting/crocheting fan like I am, and this is her favorite.
Some of it, like the button you hit to add rows when you complete it,
are not so well labeled. You will probably want to re-label the "iPad plus off"
button to something easier to remember. LOL!
There's also Counter+ but I haven't figured out how that works so well.
Here is the iTunes store link:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/counter-+/id478557426?mt=8
On Sep 11, 2014, at 8:11 AM, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
<edmond...@michigan.gov> wrote:
Hi. What is the knitting app? I’m interested!
Lucy Edmonds
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jane
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Installing IOS 8 over 7
Hi, Ron.
I guess I will have to hold off, then. I just found the neatest
knitting app, but it only works under IOS7 and I don't know if they will
re-release it. I hate having to choose between updating and losing apps. On the
other hand, I promised someone I would update to see if a certain language was
supported. *shakes head*
Jane
On Sep 10, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Ron Pelletier
<ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Jane,
If we go with the past,chances are that you won’t be able to
downgrade unless Apple offers that possibility but, its not a guarantee they
will.
Ron & Danvers
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jane
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Installing IOS 8 over 7
How do you save an earlier version? I mean, the version I am
currently running? What if I need to downgrade?
Jane
On Sep 10, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
If the past is any indication, you just install the update. Your
settings and data stay put, and the only change is the new iOS version. Of
course, you should always do a full backup before any update, just in case
something goes wrong, but most times nothing bad happens. No one has yet
updated to iOS8,obviously, but I see no reason it won't be like the last few
major releases.
On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Lee Jones <leejones...@sky.com> wrote:
Dear List, when you install a whole new version of IOS are your
settings and data preserved or do you have to start from scratch or from a back
up. . Does it work like minor updates, where you just start the update, the
phone restarts and then comes up talking when it's done?
Many Thanks, Lee
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