Its also possible that the beta versions y'all get are not the exact release. There may be a beta branch, and a release branch, where Apple has more things fixed. I don't think Apple is dumb enough to release a version that is so unusable as people seem to imply. And even so, Apple will surely fix things. I do admit, the bt keyboard may be problematic. It has been for a long time. But if a 3rd party keyboard app is made that allows even more control with the keyboard, or an app is made that allows keyboard commands like command-o for open and stuff inside many apps, then more power to us.
Sent from my iPod 5 keychat/google talk: r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com primary email: d.pra...@me.com facebook/iMessage: devinpra...@live.com > On Sep 13, 2014, at 17:13, "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: > > This is great information, Sieghard. > > Thank you for giving us a heads-up on it. > > I think I'll update one of my older phones to iOS 8 and see how it goes. > > Thanks again. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 2:04 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 > > It's useable, and iOS 8 is stabil, but you may run into some inconveniences. > It's hard for me to tell somebody to go ahead or not because everybody is > different. Keep in mind that bluetooth keyboard support is very bad and if > you are in the habit of manually dialing phone numbers iOS 8 is a pain in > the neck because quite often as you dial one of the numbers just decides to > stick and the DialTone goes on and on. As a minimum you have to bring up the > app switcher and throw the phone app out, then try again. Prior to the > Goldmaster I had to actually totally shut down the phone and reboot in order > to stop the DialTone. > > > Regards, > sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of John Diakogeorgiou > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 > > Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with > these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap > regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy that it's hard to > use then I won't. The problems which people complained about last year > didn't bother me to much if that says anything. > >> On 9/13/14, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> A very positive article, what it unfortunately does not mention is >> that > iOS >> 8 at this time (the Goldmaster or release version) has the most >> Voiceover issues of any release and some of these are not just little >> things like Voiceover saying "Screen Locked" twice which it did for a >> long time after iOS 7 was released. >> >> >> >> I have been running the iOS 8 Beta since June and as far as I can tell > Apple >> has listened to hardly any of the feedback and bug reports provided by > blind >> beta testers. There have been 5 Beta versions and now the Goldmaster >> and almost all of the most serious and annoying bugs are still there. >> I hope that they react faster once the public release happens next >> Wednesday and hopefully blind people start flooding Apple >> Accessibility with emails and phone calls about these issues. >> >> >> >> I will post a list of the 5 or so bugs which bug me the most and which >> I know other beta testers have reported as soon as the iOS 8 update >> comes > out. >> Anybody who wants to read about them just look for a post on >> Wednesday, September 17 with subject "The top 5 most annoying bugs in >> iOS 8 with Voiceover". >> >> What bothers me is that a few of these issues are not specifically >> accessibility related and they don't happen if Voiceover is not >> running > but >> as soon as Voiceover is on you suddenly are plagued by this and that. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Sieghard >> >> >> >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Richard Turner >> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:28 AM >> To: ViPone list >> Subject: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 >> >> >> >> Here is a link to an article by Steven Aquino about the accessibility >> features in iOS 8: >> > http://www.macstories.net/stories/an-overview-of-ios-8s-new-accessibility-fe > atures/ >> Richard >> >> >> >> "Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education." - >> Victor Hugo >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone > list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. 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