One thing's for darned sure; Apple beats Microsoft hands down when it comes
to introducing a new operating system as far as accessibility is concerned.
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From: "John Diakogeorgiou" <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released
NNo matter what they say the bottom line for a company is to make
money. Yes it would be nice for Apples product to be perfect and have
no bugs, but we have the right to expect the same accessability from
all the operating system developers.
On 9/17/14, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:
You can't expect "accessibility" from either Microsoft and/or Google
as it pertains to either Microsoft's Windows and Google's Android
based on that comment because they are not geared towards the "Blind
and/or LowVision Community" either.
At 12:54 PM 9/17/2014, you wrote:
As for companies that manufacture products specifically for the
blind, I do expect those to work properly when first used, but an
iPhone does not fall into that category, even though it does,
thankfully, come with Voice-Over.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "alia robinson" <ali...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released
how about they take voiceover out altogether? No, we are never going
to decide whether a product is released or not; no company is going
to wait for blind people to be happy before releasing their product.
We are too small a group. It's just the way it is. even people
developing for the blind do this. It's something we have to get used
to and work with. I am sure it will be ironed out, but you can
forget about it waiting to be released until it is. it's not
happening. The sighted world does not accommodate us. we have to
find ways of doing things that sighted people do. It has been that
way since I started in school with a brailleer, and a teacher to
print my assignments for my sighted teachers, and it will always be
that way. it is so much better than it was before voiceover, and I
am grateful for that. I can buy something out of the box and use it.
Alia
On Sep 17, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Neal Ewers <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>
wrote:
If people who are sighted had this many bugs with the new OS, Apple would
not have released it. I am tired of developers thinking that they can
release something to the public and then, if they have time, fix the bugs
that make the device much less stable for people who have a disability. I
know, at one time, Apple was in the forefront of accessibility. I gave
them
high praise and they deserved it. But, as some of my Mac user friends
have
said, they seem to have lately been resting on their former reputation
and
less on getting it right the first time. Obviously, they knew about all
of
these iOS bugs before release. This is why they have beta testers who are
blind and have low vision. Yet, they decided that was more important to
get
it to people who see, than to wait until it was just as ready for people
who
are blind or have limited vision. Shame, shame, shame on you Apple, I
thought you were a better company than that. Put your development where
your
mouth is and fix the many problem issues in iOS 8. Otherwise, don't claim
to
be such a friend of people who are disabled.
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