I totally agree with this. If the mainstream app does the job just as well or
better, I'll use it. But if an app designed for the blind does the job better
or more easily, that's what I would prefer using.
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From: Teresa Cochran
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: blind specific versus mainstream - Re: touch typing with ios8
I do use blindness-specific apps from time to time, such as Bard. However, I
tend to have a pragmatic approach to this issue. If an off-the-shelf app can do
it just as well or better, I use that. One thing I absolutely love about using
iOS is being able to compare notes about apps with sighted friends. Just the
other day, my friend recommended a website, and I found out its companion app
is very accessible. You just can't beat that.
Teresa
"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with
the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
On Sep 18, 2014, at 6:57 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com>
wrote:
Hi,
You want to know the reason why i avoid using blind specific apps as far as
i possibly can?
1: Blindness specific apps send a signal to developers that they need not
bother to put accessibility into main stream apps, because a solution exists
that blind are going to prefer anyway.
2: As someone stated earlier, blind specific apps tend not to be updated
past the first version and the first bug fix release, then they get forgotten.
3: Some, *not all* but some developers tend to oversimplify and exclude
features even down to a basic level and to me at least it is like they’re
saying that blind folks can’t chew chewing gum and walk at the same time, that
in my not so humble opinion is an insult of my inteligence. I’m not saying we
should have bells and whistles by the score and just because they can, but if
one makes, say a calendar, something that already exists and is accessible
don’t omit features that are basic. Now let me say this once again, not all
developers do this but i’ve seen those who do. Let’s also be clear on one more
point, there are apps that are really needed, like screen readers, money
identifiers, some apps that adds extra gps info to standard gps apps etc but
there are other apps that reinvent the wheel but more over simplified, like
certain calendars, calculators and the like.
Just my 0.02.
/Krister
18 sep 2014 kl. 15:20 skrev John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com>:
Charles I am one of those who would prefer to use a mainstream app if
it exists. The reasons for this are that they are sometimes updated
more frequently and that they are generally less expensive. The KNFB
reader and the GPS apps are both good examples of how expensive apps
are. I understand the reasons for this and don't want to get into a
huge debate. I am just expressing my reasons for preferring off the
shelf apps.
On 9/18/14, Rose Combs <roseco...@q.com> wrote:
I have to agree here, I don't care if it is mainstream or blind
specific if
it does what I need it to do. If the app works on my phone, if it does
something I need or want I don't even truly notice who made it or why.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: blind specific versus mainstream - Re: touch typing with ios8
I don't understand why people seem to be against using apps and products
that are blind specific. It seems like people avoid them like the
plague,
and, in a lot of instances, you're not getting full advantage of your
device, such as an iPhone. Some mainstream apps just don't work as well
for
a blind user.
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From: Krister Ekstrom <mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:26 AM
Subject: Re: touch typing with ios8
Hi,
I have tried the direct typing method, and i don't know what i think
about
it really. I have now installed Fleksy something i thought i would
never do
given that it was designed as a blind specific product in the first
place,
but now when it's actually available in Swedish i can experience for
myself
how powerful it really is. But that's also just an option amongst
others.
/Krister
18 sep 2014 kl. 01:47 skrev Jenny Wood <kc5...@gmail.com>:
Actually, you might be surprised. What's useless for one may be the
next
best thing for another. Personally, I am rather excited about the
direct
touch typing feature. While I made quite a few mistakes within the
first
three or four minutes of playing with it, my speed and accuracy picked
up
dramatically within the hour. For those whom muscle memory and spacial
orientation come more naturally, it's a pretty neat option. But it's
just
that, an option, and personally, I applaud Apple for giving us more of
them.
:-)
Jenny
On Sep 17, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
Useless on an iPhone as far as I am concerned. You basically have to hit
the
letter right on and it takes an actual tap and lift for the letter to
type
rather than just lifting your finger.
From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com[
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
OfRobert Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:51 PM
To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: touch typing with ios8
I'm curious about direct touch typing.
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From: <mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com> Jennie Facer
To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: touch typing with ios8
What is the interactive notifications all about?
Thank you so much!
Jen
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On Sep 17, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Chuck Dean < <mailto:chuckd...@icloud.com>
chuckd...@icloud.com> wrote:
Once I had a text field open, I was able to turn on touch typing with
the
rotor.
Chuck
On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:24:05 PM UTC-7, Jed Barton wrote:
Hey guys,
I got ios8 installed, however, touch typing doesn't seem to work any
more. Worse yet, it doesn't appear to be in my roter. Any idea where
it might be hiding?
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