Hi,

I'm no photographer, but I am a math and science guy. If you are saying that 
taking a landscape picture of a page that is essentially a portrait improves 
results, that makes no logical sense. The number of pixels lost is on the order 
of 40%. You lose about 20% on the left and right sides to meaningless 
background if a full portrait page is in view in landscape

I don't buy it. There must be another factor contributing to the issue. Unless 
of course, the OCR engine works better with fewer pixels.


--k
Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the 
questions.

 

On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:

> There's your problem, hold it in landscape mode, you'll get better results.
> I recommend Judy Dixon's book, Get the Picture, from National Braille Press. 
> it does a great job of helping a blind person understand photography.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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> 
>> On 19/09/2014, at 5:01 am, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I tend to hold the phone so that the camera points towards the top of the 
>> document. The vibration thingy is really a great help, they've been thinking 
>> there. At the risk of sounding stupid again, should i not hold the phone 
>> with the camera pointing to the top of the document but rather as if i had 
>> it in landscape mode?
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 18 sep 2014 kl. 18:15 skrev Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org>:
>>> 
>>> Hi Krister, hard to know what you're doing without seeing what you're 
>>> doing, but the one thing that comes to mind is, are you holding the phone 
>>> lengthways or sideways? I find I get the best results by putting a page of 
>>> text on a table, like I would be reading it in Braille or visually. Then 
>>> hold the phone sideways a few centimetres above the page. Use the vibration 
>>> feedback so that the phone stops vibrating, indicating you have the angle 
>>> right, then take the picture. For further feedback before you take the 
>>> picture, you might use the field of view report, particularly in the early 
>>> stages.
>>> Good luck. This thing really rocks so stick with it.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org
>>> 
>>>> On 19/09/2014, at 3:53 am, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> What are you guys doing to get good results? Me, i got a lot of gibberish 
>>>> and some readable text but not much. Is there a technique for this? Does 
>>>> the reader give some kind of feedback when all text's detected? Anyways 
>>>> now i know that it's me and not the app that's stupid.:-)
>>>> /Krister
>>>> 
>>>>> 18 sep 2014 kl. 17:37 skrev Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have played a bit today with this app on my iPhone 5S and it really is 
>>>>> pretty good. I just got it to read the instructions on a small bread mix 
>>>>> bag where the text was incredibly tiny and brown on a beige background. 
>>>>> The results were very quick and about 95% accurate! Harry
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 18 Sep 2014, at 13:23, Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Eileen;
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I believe I'm going to try it on my 5s.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If and, when I do, I'let everyone know.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sentence from my AT&T iPhone 5s!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello Jonathan,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Your first impressions of the KNFB app is encouraging. At this time, 
>>>>>>> I'm going to have to be on the sidelines until I decide on which iPhone 
>>>>>>> 6 I will purchase. This is my question to this thread. For those who 
>>>>>>> invest in the KNFB Reader app and have purchased either an iPhone 6 or 
>>>>>>> 6 plus, it would be terrific to post on the accuracy of the app in 
>>>>>>> comparison to the phone that they originally installed the app on. 
>>>>>>> Also, if one can also comment on the use of the app with the 6 plus in 
>>>>>>> particular because of the optical stabilization. ANOTHER person read my 
>>>>>>> mind regarding if your use of the app was with the StandScan or with 
>>>>>>> some other type of stand. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks so much for your first impressions.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Eileen
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:41 AM, Feliciano G <theblindman...@hotmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It is now available on the app store to download.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>           Regards, Feliciano
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from the Super-iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:19 AM, "BrianMiller" <brianrmille...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>> So is the KNFB reader app now available in the app store?  
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> Also, are you using a stand to take the scans/pics, or are you just 
>>>>>>>>> holding the phone over the page or item?  
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much, this is very encouraging!
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> Brian M
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:05 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>> Subject: KNFB Reader, First Impressions
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> I've spent the last half hour or so playing with KNFB Reader on my 
>>>>>>>>> iPhone 5s. I couldn't be more impressed.
>>>>>>>>> I read my son's school report, which it got word perfect even when it 
>>>>>>>>> came to reading tables. It read a glossy pizza menu fairly well. It 
>>>>>>>>> read the page of a book perfectly, and it read a letter I received in 
>>>>>>>>> the mail. The feedback one gets via vibration to line up the picture 
>>>>>>>>> is incredibly helpful. You can use the field of view report if you 
>>>>>>>>> need to for even more information about camera positioning and angle.
>>>>>>>>> And, it's fast. Very fast, between taking a picture and getting 
>>>>>>>>> speech.
>>>>>>>>> It's early days but this has actually exceeded my expectations. 
>>>>>>>>> Certainly it's possible to use other apps, but I've found nothing 
>>>>>>>>> this simple, fast, or accurate without any additional aids. 
>>>>>>>>> Outstanding stuff.
>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>>>>>>>> Mosen Consulting
>>>>>>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>>>>>>>> http://Mosen.org
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