I have been having good luck with the app, way better then the other two I own. I have scanned all sorts of things and I'd say it is doing 95% or better on the different things I have tried.
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Pelletier Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions I think the company would do themselves a favour if they had a demo that could do something like 10 or 15 documents to let people see how good it really is before they invest that kind of money. By today's standards, $100 is a lot of money for an app and I can't blame anyone for being skeptical in jumping in without knowing how good it is. Ron & Danvers -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of RobH. Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 5:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Hummmnmnmnm,.... careful!... you'll be convincing a sceptic soon at this rate. Rh. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 6:56 AM Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions I purchased KNFB Reader this morning and tried it with a few printed documents including a plain letter asking for a donation, an invoice and something else. I used the phone in portrait mode and also had the letter size document in portrait mode. KNFB Reader did an outstanding job on the letter and I had very good results from the invoice and the other document. The app is outstanding and I have already deleted Prizmo and Text Grabber from my phone since I don't see myself using them any more now that I have KNFB Reader. The tilt feedback via vibrations is very useful and the field of view report is amazing. The fact that it tells you whether you are holding the phone even the slightest little bit turned with respect to the page qlong with which edges are visible is awesome. As Jonathan already pointed out the recognition is lightning fast and what I really like is how simple the app is. They have definitely outdone themselves with that app. I have yet to put it through its paces in other situations, but I am already very happy about my $100 investment as I know that it will be of much use in the years to come. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions I contacted support at KNFB Reader and was advised to use portrait mode if possible, both for the document layout and with the phone. On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Kayaker <sea...@me.com <mailto:sea...@me.com> > wrote: Hi, I'm no photographer, but I am a math and science guy. If you are saying that taking a landscape picture of a page that is essentially a portrait improves results, that makes no logical sense. The number of pixels lost is on the order of 40%. You lose about 20% on the left and right sides to meaningless background if a full portrait page is in view in landscape I don't buy it. There must be another factor contributing to the issue. Unless of course, the OCR engine works better with fewer pixels. -k Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the questions. On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org> > wrote: There's your problem, hold it in landscape mode, you'll get better results. I recommend Judy Dixon's book, Get the Picture, from National Braille Press. it does a great job of helping a blind person understand photography. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/> On 19/09/2014, at 5:01 am, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com <mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com> > wrote: I tend to hold the phone so that the camera points towards the top of the document. The vibration thingy is really a great help, they've been thinking there. At the risk of sounding stupid again, should i not hold the phone with the camera pointing to the top of the document but rather as if i had it in landscape mode? /Krister 18 sep 2014 kl. 18:15 skrev Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org> >: Hi Krister, hard to know what you're doing without seeing what you're doing, but the one thing that comes to mind is, are you holding the phone lengthways or sideways? I find I get the best results by putting a page of text on a table, like I would be reading it in Braille or visually. Then hold the phone sideways a few centimetres above the page. Use the vibration feedback so that the phone stops vibrating, indicating you have the angle right, then take the picture. For further feedback before you take the picture, you might use the field of view report, particularly in the early stages. Good luck. This thing really rocks so stick with it. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/> On 19/09/2014, at 3:53 am, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com <mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com> > wrote: What are you guys doing to get good results? Me, i got a lot of gibberish and some readable text but not much. Is there a technique for this? Does the reader give some kind of feedback when all text's detected? Anyways now i know that it's me and not the app that's stupid.:-) /Krister 18 sep 2014 kl. 17:37 skrev Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com <mailto:ubupanora...@icloud.com> >: I have played a bit today with this app on my iPhone 5S and it really is pretty good. I just got it to read the instructions on a small bread mix bag where the text was incredibly tiny and brown on a beige background. The results were very quick and about 95% accurate! Harry On 18 Sep 2014, at 13:23, Anthony Vece < <mailto:ajv...@gmail.com> ajv...@gmail.com> wrote: Eileen; I believe I'm going to try it on my 5s. If and, when I do, I'let everyone know. Sentence from my AT&T iPhone 5s! On Sep 18, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Eileen Misrahi < <mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com> eileen.misr...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Jonathan, Your first impressions of the KNFB app is encouraging. At this time, I'm going to have to be on the sidelines until I decide on which iPhone 6 I will purchase. This is my question to this thread. For those who invest in the KNFB Reader app and have purchased either an iPhone 6 or 6 plus, it would be terrific to post on the accuracy of the app in comparison to the phone that they originally installed the app on. Also, if one can also comment on the use of the app with the 6 plus in particular because of the optical stabilization. ANOTHER person read my mind regarding if your use of the app was with the StandScan or with some other type of stand. Thanks so much for your first impressions. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:41 AM, Feliciano G < <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote: It is now available on the app store to download. Regards, Feliciano Like my Facebook page: <https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327> https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327 Follow me on Twitter: <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v> Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:19 AM, "BrianMiller" < <mailto:brianrmille...@gmail.com> brianrmille...@gmail.com> wrote: Jonathan, So is the KNFB reader app now available in the app store? Also, are you using a stand to take the scans/pics, or are you just holding the phone over the page or item? Thanks so much, this is very encouraging! Brian M From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com[ <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:05 AM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: KNFB Reader, First Impressions I've spent the last half hour or so playing with KNFB Reader on my iPhone 5s. I couldn't be more impressed. I read my son's school report, which it got word perfect even when it came to reading tables. It read a glossy pizza menu fairly well. It read the page of a book perfectly, and it read a letter I received in the mail. The feedback one gets via vibration to line up the picture is incredibly helpful. You can use the field of view report if you need to for even more information about camera positioning and angle. And, it's fast. Very fast, between taking a picture and getting speech. It's early days but this has actually exceeded my expectations. Certainly it's possible to use other apps, but I've found nothing this simple, fast, or accurate without any additional aids. Outstanding stuff. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training <http://mosen.org/> http://Mosen.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. 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