Hi Deb, If you put the phone in landscape, do you also have to put the document into landscape as well?
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 18, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Deb Lewis <deblewi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I know this is what they say and I sure don't want to dispute that. > But personally I had the best success with Jonathan's strategy of > putting the phone in landscape mode. It might be just that I can > position it better in landscape. > > >> On 9/18/14, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I contacted support at KNFB Reader and was advised to use portrait mode if >> possible, both for the document layout and with the phone. >>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Kayaker <sea...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm no photographer, but I am a math and science guy. If you are saying >>> that taking a landscape picture of a page that is essentially a portrait >>> improves results, that makes no logical sense. The number of pixels lost >>> is on the order of 40%. You lose about 20% on the left and right sides to >>> meaningless background if a full portrait page is in view in landscape >>> >>> I don't buy it. There must be another factor contributing to the issue. >>> Unless of course, the OCR engine works better with fewer pixels. >>> >>> >>> --k >>> Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the >>> questions. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> There's your problem, hold it in landscape mode, you'll get better >>>> results. >>>> I recommend Judy Dixon's book, Get the Picture, from National Braille >>>> Press. it does a great job of helping a blind person understand >>>> photography. >>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>> Mosen Consulting >>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>> http://Mosen.org >>>> >>>>> On 19/09/2014, at 5:01 am, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I tend to hold the phone so that the camera points towards the top of >>>>> the document. The vibration thingy is really a great help, they've been >>>>> thinking there. At the risk of sounding stupid again, should i not hold >>>>> the phone with the camera pointing to the top of the document but rather >>>>> as if i had it in landscape mode? >>>>> /Krister >>>>> >>>>>> 18 sep 2014 kl. 18:15 skrev Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org>: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Krister, hard to know what you're doing without seeing what you're >>>>>> doing, but the one thing that comes to mind is, are you holding the >>>>>> phone lengthways or sideways? I find I get the best results by putting >>>>>> a page of text on a table, like I would be reading it in Braille or >>>>>> visually. Then hold the phone sideways a few centimetres above the >>>>>> page. Use the vibration feedback so that the phone stops vibrating, >>>>>> indicating you have the angle right, then take the picture. For further >>>>>> feedback before you take the picture, you might use the field of view >>>>>> report, particularly in the early stages. >>>>>> Good luck. This thing really rocks so stick with it. >>>>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>>>> Mosen Consulting >>>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>>>> http://Mosen.org >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 19/09/2014, at 3:53 am, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What are you guys doing to get good results? Me, i got a lot of >>>>>>> gibberish and some readable text but not much. Is there a technique >>>>>>> for this? Does the reader give some kind of feedback when all text's >>>>>>> detected? Anyways now i know that it's me and not the app that's >>>>>>> stupid.:-) >>>>>>> /Krister >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 18 sep 2014 kl. 17:37 skrev Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have played a bit today with this app on my iPhone 5S and it really >>>>>>>> is pretty good. I just got it to read the instructions on a small >>>>>>>> bread mix bag where the text was incredibly tiny and brown on a beige >>>>>>>> background. The results were very quick and about 95% accurate! >>>>>>>> Harry >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 18 Sep 2014, at 13:23, Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Eileen; >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I believe I'm going to try it on my 5s. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If and, when I do, I'let everyone know. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sentence from my AT&T iPhone 5s! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Eileen Misrahi >>>>>>>>> <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello Jonathan, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Your first impressions of the KNFB app is encouraging. At this >>>>>>>>>> time, I'm going to have to be on the sidelines until I decide on >>>>>>>>>> which iPhone 6 I will purchase. This is my question to this thread. >>>>>>>>>> For those who invest in the KNFB Reader app and have purchased >>>>>>>>>> either an iPhone 6 or 6 plus, it would be terrific to post on the >>>>>>>>>> accuracy of the app in comparison to the phone that they originally >>>>>>>>>> installed the app on. Also, if one can also comment on the use of >>>>>>>>>> the app with the 6 plus in particular because of the optical >>>>>>>>>> stabilization. ANOTHER person read my mind regarding if your use of >>>>>>>>>> the app was with the StandScan or with some other type of stand. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for your first impressions. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>> Eileen >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:41 AM, Feliciano G >>>>>>>>>> <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It is now available on the app store to download. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, Feliciano >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Like my Facebook page: >>>>>>>>>>> https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327 >>>>>>>>>>> Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the Super-iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:19 AM, "BrianMiller" >>>>>>>>>>> <brianrmille...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan, >>>>>>>>>>>> So is the KNFB reader app now available in the app store? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, are you using a stand to take the scans/pics, or are you >>>>>>>>>>>> just holding the phone over the page or item? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much, this is very encouraging! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian M >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:05 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: KNFB Reader, First Impressions >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've spent the last half hour or so playing with KNFB Reader on >>>>>>>>>>>> my iPhone 5s. I couldn't be more impressed. >>>>>>>>>>>> I read my son's school report, which it got word perfect even >>>>>>>>>>>> when it came to reading tables. It read a glossy pizza menu >>>>>>>>>>>> fairly well. It read the page of a book perfectly, and it read a >>>>>>>>>>>> letter I received in the mail. The feedback one gets via >>>>>>>>>>>> vibration to line up the picture is incredibly helpful. You can >>>>>>>>>>>> use the field of view report if you need to for even more >>>>>>>>>>>> information about camera positioning and angle. >>>>>>>>>>>> And, it's fast. Very fast, between taking a picture and getting >>>>>>>>>>>> speech. >>>>>>>>>>>> It's early days but this has actually exceeded my expectations. >>>>>>>>>>>> Certainly it's possible to use other apps, but I've found nothing >>>>>>>>>>>> this simple, fast, or accurate without any additional aids. >>>>>>>>>>>> Outstanding stuff. >>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>>>>>>>>>> Mosen Consulting >>>>>>>>>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>>>>>>>>>> http://Mosen.org >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the >>>>>>>>>>>> viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by >>>>>>>>>>>> default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running >>>>>>>>>>>> of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is >>>>>>>>>>>> inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly >>>>>>>>>>>> rather than posting on the list itself. 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