What is direct touch typing?  Is it usable with voice over? 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Berry
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:40 PM
To: Vi Phone
Subject: Re: touch typing with ios8

i swear by touch typing.  The simplest way to describe it is find the letter
you want and let up on the letter and it adds it.  I also have a keyboard
that connects to the bottom of my phone but my fingers are too big for it
and I don't like it.


On Sep 18, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:


        The thing I find disappointing about direct touch typing is when
you're in the phone app it pretty much acts like it would when in standard
typing mode. I don't know if this is a bug or if they purposely did this so
that we don't mess up. But if we did mess up, that's what the delete button
is for.

        Shawn
        Sent From My White MacBook


                On Sep 17, 2014, at 11:02 PM, Cheryl Homiak
<cah4...@icloud.com> wrote:

                You certainly can do it with a split tap. What is described
in "iOS8 without the eye" and is maybe more difficult but works, is to tap
the letter and then release quickly. I think this would require a good
finger memory of where the different letters are or a screen protector with
dots because if I understand correctly you are just tapping down and then
releasing quickly. It's different from touch typing because with touch
typing you can just slide your finger around and lift up. The direct touch
typing needs a definite tap and then a quick release. I'm probably not
describing this very well and I'm not very good at it yet but I've done it
enough to know sort of how it feels. But a split tap also would accomplish
this I think.

                 
                
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                On Sep 17, 2014, at 10:21 PM, Charles Rivard
<wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:


                        Touch typing is the same as it was.  Find the letter
and lift your finger to activate.  The new method is to find the letter and
touch elsewhere on the screen, sort of like a split tap, to activate.

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                                From: Ray T. Mahorney
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                                To: viphone@googlegroups.com
                                Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:14 PM
                                Subject: RE: touch typing with ios8

                                how does direct typing differ from touch
typing?
                                 
                                 
                                Ray T. Mahorney
                                WA4WGA
                                 
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viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny
Wood
                                Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:37
                                To: viphone@googlegroups.com
                                Subject: Re: touch typing with ios8
                                 
                                Hi Jonathan,
                                 
                                My husband and I were discussing this topic
at length this evening, and he pointed out something I had long since
forgotten.  Many, if not most sighted people don't even look at their
keyboard when they are typing on the iPhone.  Whether they realize it or
not, they are actually watching the output of what they are typing on the
screen, but are in fact, typing purely by muscle memory and familiarity of
the keyboard with their fingers or thumbs.  I have a sighted friend and
neighbor who, I swear, has to set some sort of speed record with her ability
to type quickly on the iPhone.  She most definitely isn't watching what she
is typing, and the "clicking" sound that accompanies each keystroke simply
can't keep up with her movement. LOL  Having had usable vision once myself,
I know exactly what he is talking about, because I have been "touch typing"
now since I was in the third grade or so.  I have longed for a way to type
as sighted folks do on my iDevices, not so much because I just have an
overwhelming desire to "be" like the sighted, but because I honestly believe
I could type more quickly and efficiently that way.  Even on the iPhone,
which doesn't have nearly as much space in which to position either or both
hands, I can make good use of the direct typing function with one or two
fingers at a time.  It's just like anything else, it comes with a learning
curve, and as always, it's not for everyone.  Personally, I have no use for
inputting text via a virtual braille keyboard, as I just can't get used to
scrunching my fingers into such a small place, and I really do prefer
tactile buttons pressing underneath my fingers, but I think the concept is
cool and I am glad there are folks who can make use to it. :-)  As for me
and braille input, I'll stick to the braille display. 
                                 
                                Jenny        
                                 
                                 
                                On Sep 17, 2014, at 8:06 PM, Jonathan Mosen
<jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
                                
                                
                                
                                Hi Jenny, I agree with you. Direct touch
typing absolutely rocks on an iPad, and when I first started using this
feature three months ago, I couldn't imagine using it on my phone. Now I am
starting to, and I suspect it will be used even more regularly when I get my
6 Plus. But there's definitely a knack to it and it may take a while to
learn.
                                Direct typing is a great reason to have a
SpeedDots screen protector. It really helps and the combination can speed
you way up.
                                Jonathan Mosen
                                Mosen Consulting
                                Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and
training
                                http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/> 
                                 

                                        On 18/09/2014, at 11:47 am, Jenny
Wood <kc5...@gmail.com> wrote:
                                         
                                        Actually, you might be surprised.
What's useless for one may be the next best thing for another.  Personally,
I am rather excited about the direct touch typing feature.  While I made
quite a few mistakes within the first three or four minutes of playing with
it, my speed and accuracy picked up dramatically within the hour.  For those
whom muscle memory and spacial orientation come more naturally, it's a
pretty neat option.  But it's just that, an option, and personally, I
applaud Apple for giving us more of them. :-)
                                         
                                        Jenny 
                                         
                                         
                                        On Sep 17, 2014, at 5:34 PM,
Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        Useless on an iPhone as far as I am
concerned. You basically have to hit the letter right on and it takes an
actual tap and lift for the letter to type rather than just lifting your
finger.
                                         
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<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On Behalf OfRobert Doc Wright
                                        Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014
2:51 PM
                                        To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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                                        Subject: Re: touch typing with ios8
                                         
                                        I'm curious about direct touch
typing.

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                                                Sent: Wednesday, September
17, 2014 3:31 PM
                                                Subject: Re: touch typing
with ios8
                                                 
                                                What is the interactive
notifications all about?
                                                Thank you so much!
                                                Jen
                                                
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SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

                                                
                                                On Sep 17, 2014, at 3:29 PM,
Chuck Dean <chuckd...@icloud.com <mailto:chuckd...@icloud.com> > wrote:

                                                        Once I had a text
field open, I was able to turn on touch typing with the rotor.
                                                         
                                                        Chuck
                                                        
                                                        On Wednesday,
September 17, 2014 2:24:05 PM UTC-7, Jed Barton wrote:

                                                                Hey guys, 
                                                                I got ios8
installed, however, touch typing doesn't seem to work any 
                                                                more.  Worse
yet, it doesn't appear to be in my roter.  Any idea where 
                                                                it might be
hiding?

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