yes friend absolutely right.
I also share your words ...
I sold my imac because I was tired of the irresponsibility of the apple.
I thought things were better in IOS and with the money from selling the imac bought an iPhone. but once again the apple disappointed me because it is the total irresponsibility on all your systems ...
vo on OSX, is stopped in time.
Apple does not listen to us and no longer serves us as it should ...
I think that apple is no longer able to continue to innovate the vo.
if apple would hear us things would not be this shame ...
we must have the same rights as the sighted people.
let's stop  to say amen to favors that apple makes us ...
apple stop  sleeping in the spotlight ...
open your eyes and stop being irresponsible ...
cheers.

Em 25/09/2014 10:27, Pablo Morales escreveu:

Hmmm, I think everything has a limit. Apple makes great products, even though, it should not be a excuse to start doing this kind of things. Since this last year, me and apple are very mad. Mad, because I am noticing that for them, when they have a huge reputation, they want to sale more, and IOs and other examples is something that apple is not testing enough, just to make more money.

Anyway. I am very happy now, with my IOs 7.1.2, and you know what?

I have less than one year using this IOs 7.1.2, why I will install a new release with bunches of bugs?

It doesn't make sense. But it is my opinion, and I respect who wants to try something new, when they know that IOs8 is getting a lot of problems, related with the accessibility, and not with the accessibility.

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Ron Pelletier
*Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 12:28 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: iOS 8.0.1 is out

Neal,

I think that Apple is trying so hard to satisfy the people who are impatient that they are cranking out the updates too fast and don't have time to properly check them. Having seen what has happened last year and this year also, I still think that they feel that timing to put out the new product is more important than coming out with the right thing from the get go. They set themselves a deadline and go crazy trying to stick to it and the result is what we get.

I guess they have evaluated that their reputation can stand the problems and they seem to be right. No matter how many bugs there are, people seem to forgive Apple for putting out a product before it is ready. When people camp out on the sidewalk for two days to be the first to get the new product, I guess you don't have to worry about several dozen bugs.

Ron & Danvers

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Neal Ewers
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2014 2:28 PM
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*Subject:* RE: iOS 8.0.1 is out

Hi, I applaud Apple's quick update release. What is bothersome is that they put out an update not knowing about the issue that caused them to pull it. I bring this up only to ask a question. For those who are on the beta team, do you get to see these updates first, or is the testing of these done in house. This also raises the question of updates released that may, in fact, break things that already work. I guess we will have to wait and see, but I am curious about who tests the updates they release.

Neal

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alex Hall
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:21 PM
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FYI, Apple has just pulled the update. You can no longer get it; I imagine it will be re-released soon with a fix for the problems on the iPhone6.

On Sep 24, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Trea Abma <trea.a...@gmail.com <mailto:trea.a...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I updated and didn't have this problems. I called voicemail and was able to delete messages without the dial tone bug, so maybe this is solved.

*From:*Rich Ring <mailto:richr...@gmail.com>

*Sent:*Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:00 PM

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*Subject:*Re: iOS 8.0.1 is out

However, I've heard that some users are losing cell service and that the update also breaks touch ID. I think I'll wait!


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On Sep 24, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Gail the U. S. Male <gailcrowe1...@gmail.com <mailto:gailcrowe1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes, It sure is! I just saw the announcement in my iTunes. I'm downloading it now, as I write this. I was trying to send a message to the list, but you beat me to it. LOL!

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    *Sent:*Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:29 PM

    *Subject:*iOS 8.0.1 is out

    Checking the changelong, there's no specific mention of
    accessibility fixes, but maybe those who install it can comment on
    whehter they notice any improvements on their devices...

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