Easy there killer. I don't want to upgrade to iOS 8 on my 4S because I think it 
will dampen the performance on my slower processor. At some point I hope to get 
at least the 5S, but until then, I'd just assume go on enjoying the Apple 
ecosystem in a way that is as efficient as possible. I expect bugs, just part 
of technology, certainly no reason to tell people to just ditch Apple and go 
somewhere else. Just my two American cents worth.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 2:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on not upgrading to iOS 8

You can't it will have to be installed one day. Even if you delete the download 
from settings general usage it will reappear at some point. I say if you don't 
like this then don't be part of the Apple ecosystem. 
Just my £0.02 worth.


Sent from my laptop

On 09/10/2014 02:11, Joe wrote:
> On that note, I'm actually interested in dismissing iOS 8 in my Settings. I 
> don't think my 4S will fair well with this major update. Any ideas on how to 
> get rid of it from my Settings and relieve the space?
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 7:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My thoughts on not upgrading to iOS 8
>
> hi,
>
> exactly, i can't feel sorry for people who just have to always have the 
> newest xyz then b&m about xyz doesn't work.
> Bryan Schulz
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles Rivard" <wee1s...@fidnet.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 5:44 PM
> Subject: Re: My thoughts on not upgrading to iOS 8
>
>
> The majority of businesses never immediately upgrade software to the 
> newest edition, especially when it comes to the firmware of a device 
> like a cell phone.  And they do not do so for a darned good reason.
>
> ---
> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're 
> finished, you! really! are! finished!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Flor Lynch" <florl...@iol.ie>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 2:19 PM
> Subject: Re: My thoughts on not upgrading to iOS 8
>
>
> Chris,
>
> No point in doing Apple a favour if you're not also doing yourself a 
> favour, or doing it for your own interest. When people need to 
> upgrade, for reasons of favourite app compatibility or interest in 
> extra features offered, for example, they will. latest isn't 
> necessarily, nor always, greatest. Not everybody has the time and 
> patience and technical nous to deal with bugs and errors.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <challswor...@icloud.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 8:00 PM
> Subject: Re: My thoughts on not upgrading to iOS 8
>
>
> Thanks all. The reason I posted this is I am seeing a lot of people 
> not upgrading for absolutely no reason at all other than until the 
> bugs are fixed. This I'm afraid is not part of real life as far as software 
> goes.
> All software will have bugs no matter how good the developers are, 
> including those working for major companies like Apple. So waiting 
> till all bugs are fixed is like waiting till the world ends.
>
>
> Sent from my laptop
>
> On 30/09/2014 15:48, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Shawn,
>>
>> Quite a few Voiceover users beta tested iOS 8 and it's definitely far 
>> from as good as it could be *smile*. Unfortunately providing feedback 
>> is not a guaranty that all bugs which are discovered during the beta 
>> cycle will be illuminated when the public release happens.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 7:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: My thoughts on not upgrading to iOS 8
>>
>> I agree with you Chris. This is the reason why I'm beta testing 
>> Yosemite so when it launches October 21 it's as good as it can be.
>>
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>
>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 4:25 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>> Here are my personal thoughts on why you should upgrade to iOS 8 
>>> despite the bugs.
>>>
>>> If you do upgrade and discover bugs yourself, you are actually doing 
>>> Apple a favour as you can then report your own bugs to them, 
>>> including attempting to reproduce them at their end by providing 
>>> step by step instructions on how to produce the bugs where possible. 
>>> This cannot be achieved if you yourself don't upgrade because you of 
>>> course won't see the bugs yourself. I can understand however if your 
>>> device(s) are used for purposes other than personal. In reality you 
>>> will never have software in general that is bug free as bugs are 
>>> part of development. Not only developers make mistakes; software itself can 
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> Just my £0.02 worth.
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>>> Sent from my laptop
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