Yes, it is the most rediculous solution, and it is unnecessary, at least on my iPhone 5s running iOS 8.1.1, my girlfriend's iPhones 5 and 6+ running iOS 8.1.1, her ipad 2, 3, and 4, all running iOS 8.1 and 8.1.1 (not all are upgraded yet). Testing on all of these devices moves apps the way they have always moved, both on the home screen, and into and out from folders. Did you test for yourself before going off on your over-the-top absolutely rediculous rant at Apple"
I run my business primarily from my iPhone es using iOS 8.1.1. Before iOS 8, I needed to use a bluetooth braille display for the keyboard. Now, because I spent the time to learn the braille input, I no longer need to carry my braille display. I only use it now when I am proofreading important documents and presentations. Note: this email is being typed using braille input, and I am finally as fast as with the braille display keyboard. As for the moving and deleting apps in the last row, as reported by some users, I have not experienced this problem with any of the afor mentioned iDevices. This means, it is an intermentent bug, not a bug that effects all devices. The problem with such bugs is they are extremely difficult to find, and even more difficult to correct" Oh, and a note about testing for bugs, if you do so whilst stressed (such as the state you were in when writing this email, you will very easily cause the appearance of such bugs just because of your emotional excitation. Try again later, after relaxing and taking many deep breaths. Then, try again the next day, at a different time of day, when you are under different conditions. Learning anything new is always stressful, and we always make mistakes. In fact, the greater the stress and anxiety, the worse the mistakes we make. Apple continues inovating. They continue adding new features to iOS, to VoiceOver, and to general accessibility. In six months, my girlfriend and I will be presenting a paper comparing Apple's latest with Android's latest regarding all of each system's accessibility options. So, I will start learning Android TalkBack this weekend. My girlfriend finds Apple's low vision features to be better overall than Android. That said, we will start testing with low vision students in January. So, contrary to your assertions, Steve Jobs would be quite happy with Apple and where it is heading. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 20 Nov 2014, at 11:56, Mary Anne Lynskey <marlyn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > That is the most ridiculous solution I've ever heard. It's like taking a walk > without your cane or guide dog! Apple had better get their act together soon > or I'll be thinking of a switch. Way to expensive a device to be playing > games like this with those of us who have accessibility needs. I think they > are telling us to "bite the dust". I have until the summer before I can do > anything so we will see. I hope Steve comes to haunt them all big > time because this would never happen with him in charge. What a terrible loss > that was for us. I honestly haven't seen any big improvements in the IOS. > Still have no caller ID and only half cooked notifications. And having the > apps helter-skelter all over the place and not being able to organize them is > really irritating. And Face Book is still behaving inconsistently too. I'll > stop there. I really feel sorry for anyone who spent money recently on a new > iPhone. At least mine worked well for more than a year until they shattered > accessibility in iOS8 thus far. Sorry this is a gripe post but I'm very > frustrated. > > Mary Anne > > >> On 11/18/2014 12:55 PM, Jessica Dail wrote: >> Yes. In order to move apps, one must find where they want the app to go, >> remember that spot, turn off voice over, drag the app to the new location, >> then turn voiceover back on. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey <marlyn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I still can't move apps consistently. Anyone else noticed this? >>> >>> Mary Anne >>>> On 11/17/2014 3:56 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote: >>>> Eden, the update fixes those problems. first things I noticed were those >>>> fixed and more response >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Eden Kizer >>>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:53 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released >>>> >>>> I certainly want to fix these problems because it will lock when >>>> Voice-over speaks, and Siri often doesn't finish what she's saying. >>>> >>>> Eden >>>>> On 11/17/2014 11:46 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote: >>>>> For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by >>>>> AppleVis: >>>>> 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of >>>>> VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial >>>>> release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to >>>>> resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things >>>>> such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon >>>>> Mobile app. >>>>> 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all >>>>> commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. >>>>> 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification >>>>> is received, even when the device is locked. >>>>> 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone >>>>> calls. >>>>> 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback >>>>> when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. >>>>> 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen >>>>> from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. >>>>> 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the "Details" >>>>> screen of message threads that contain attachments. >>>>> >>>>> It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S >>>>> and the older iPads. >>>>> >>>>> Wayne >>>>> >>>>>> On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>>>>> Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Make sure all apps are updated >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone >>>>>> by >>>>>> turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will >>>>>> also reboot your phone. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Happy updating, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sieghard >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>>>>> list. >>>>>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. 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