There is a list view button at the top of every calendar standard view screen. 
SELECTING the list view button has a different effect depending on which 
calendar view screen one is in. For instance, when in the month view, 
activating list view makes month view work like the older month view with the 
date and number of appointments announced, and the current date selected list 
of appointments at the bottom of the display. Whilst in this view, 
double-tapping on the appointment opens the appointment screen. Double-tapping 
on a day selects the day and brings that day's appointments up at the bottom of 
the screen. When list view is not selected in month view, double-tapping on a 
date brings up day/week view. In this view, all seven days of the current week 
are displayed at the top of the display, and the current selected day is 
displayed hour by hour on the screen. I do not remember what selecting list 
view does in this screen. If list view is selected, it anchors to the screen 
that it was selected on, and causes appropriate changes to other views. 
Deselecting list view switches calendar to standard. List view can then be 
selected in the current view screen to activate different factors. One of the 
standard view screens will place the complete list of appointments on the 
display. I do not remember which view screen one must be in for this particular 
view effect as I do not use it. I encourage people to experiment and find the 
view they prefer. The calendar is very powerful.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> On 7 Dec 2014, at 08:12, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:
> 
> Can you expand upon this, please? Thanks.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> David Chittenden
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 12:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Help with native Calendar app please
>  
> It depends on which calendar screen you are in when you select list view.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> On 6 Dec 2014, at 03:09, Sherrie <nanagoose4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I think the difference in the way the list is shown is the important thing. I 
> am still using IOS 7, by the way and the list showed up with all the dates 
> and the no event, 1 event, etc. after each date with no details except at the 
> bottom. 
> I wanted the list shown the previous way which was just a list with only the 
> dates that had appointments with each appointment listed right after the 
> date.  But the tricky part is that I can’t remember exactly how I got it into 
> this format. Three times it has reverted back to the first, useless list and 
> I spent a good chunk of time trying every combination of VO gestures until I 
> eventually got the streamlined useful list.  The three times were months 
> apart so I can’t remember exactly what worked to switch it to the better list 
> even though the last time I was trying to pay attention so I could put it in 
> my notes. It seems that maybe the gesture was something at the bottom of the 
> screen but I am not going to take a chance on replicating it until I have to 
> as it was very frustrating.
> The “good” list also starts with dates from the past but tapping the “Today” 
> button at the lower left and then the middle of the screen puts me in the 
> right place.
>  
> Hopefully, the “good” list is the default in IOS 8 so that when I finally am 
> forced to upgrade that will be one benefit.
>  
> When I was having trouble getting to the list I preferred I downloaded an app 
> called Calendars 5 which does give a concise list of appointments and also 
> includes the reminders in the same list.   I really like it but I downloaded 
> it for free from Apps Gone Free and I think it is $6.99 now.  It coordinates 
> the calendar app and the reminders app into one list.  This also allows you 
> to use Siri to enter calendar events and Reminders and they show up in the 
> Calendars 5 app as well.
> Here is the link to the info about the app:
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/calendars-5-smart-calendar/id697927927?mt=8
>  
> Sherrie Gosling
>  
> From: Alex Hall
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 9:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Help with native Calendar app please
>  
> I never even have to flick up or down to find details, I just double tap the 
> event and it opens. I'm not sure why you have to, but at least it works. :) 
> As to repeating events, the update to the calendar in iOS8 lets you specify 
> far more detailed repeat intervals than ever before, such as every other 
> Friday or Monday and Thursday of every two weeks. Fantastical still wins when 
> creating events, as you said, and its different interface and ability to 
> combine calendar events and reminders in one place is helpful. I just don't 
> find it to offer anything I can't already do that I need - I prefer keeping 
> my reminders and calendars separate, and entering events is slower but 
> doable. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but if the OP spends 
> more time with the native app, he might find he can save $5.
> On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Richard Turner <rich...@turner42.com> wrote:
>  
> I have to admit, I have not used the native calendar app in a long time, 
> I just went into it.
> First, double tap on the day of the event you want to check.
> You will get a list of your appointments from that day forward.
> Touch the event you want more details on or want to edit.
> Flick up or down until it says details and double tap.
> I now have a screen with just that event, with an edit button in the upper 
> right and a delete event button at the bottom of the screen just above the 
> home button.
> It actually works quite well.
>  
> I still prefer the ease of entering events in Fantastical 2 and in 
> particular, the ease of setting up repeating events on say, Monday, 
> Wednesday, Friday, etc.
> Once you get the hang of the phrasing, you can do those kinds of events in 
> one string in Fantastical 2.  
> But, for straight forward calendaring, I will say the native app seems to be 
> just fine.
>  
> Richard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alex Hall
> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 6:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Help with native Calendar app please
>  
> For the record, I've never had trouble with the native app. I got Fantastical 
> while it was on sale a couple months back, but I never use it. I don't see 
> what it offers me, besides far easier appointment adding, that the native app 
> does not.
>  
> As to listing events, don't flick to them - you'll start way back in the 
> past, as you discovered. Instead, touch the middle of the screen, or wherever 
> the list is displayed, and you will land on the current or nearest event. You 
> can't delete holiday events because those are on a public (read-only) 
> calendar. The hint you hear, and the delete gesture, don't know that, so 
> VoiceOver still presents the option even though it will do nothing. I'm not 
> sure what you mean about not being able to view event details - double 
> tapping an event should open that event. Again, the public holidays calendar 
> may not support this, I'm not sure.
> On Dec 4, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Richard Turner <rich...@turner42.com> wrote:
>  
> My advice is to buy FantastiCal 2 for the iPhone.
> It pulls the information in your native Calendar app, but is much easier to 
> use. If you are interested in more details about it, let me know and I will 
> give you some more detailed examples.
> You may want to first read the app description in the app store.
>  
> Fantastical 2 for iPhone - Calendar and Reminders by Flexibits Inc.
> https://appsto.re/us/2GhZQ.i
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
> Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
>  
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>  
> 
> On Dec 3, 2014, at 7:32 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I seem to be totally flummoxed by the native Calendar app.
>  
> I’ve put in Events and have the USA Holidays app that automatically loads US 
> Holiday dates.
>  
> Sometimes I go into Calendar and click List, and get Holidays and Events 
> starting June 2013, even though it’s now December 2014. If I one finger flick 
> to delete, then double tap to delete, delete announces but delete doesn’t 
> happen.
>  
> Other times, I go to a date with an event. It states there is an event and 
> announces to double tap the button to get details about the event.  When I 
> Double tap on the button, I only get a page with Calendar Headings but no 
> info.
>  
> Is there a recommended resource I can go to to figure out the native Calendar 
> app using Voiceover? Any guidance will be most appreciated.
>  
> Thanks in advance. Keith. 
>  
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