The answer to that is yes ... plug the Actiontec not into the WAN port of
the D-link but into one of the LAN ports! :-)
Seems like a waste of good router though, but you are then literally using
it as a plain switch!

--------------------------------------------
Peter Coulter
--------------------------------------------


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Knowlton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 10:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: router config to work with VNC
> 
> 
> Isn't there anyway to sort of turn the DLink router into 
> something that behaves more like a hub or a switch??????
> 
> 
> Tom
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Coulter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 3:39 PM
> To: Tom Knowlton; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: router config to work with VNC
> 
> 
> Tom:
> 
> The ActionTec 1524R SU is a wireless broadband gateway 
> (modem/router). The Dlink 614+ is a wireless router. This 
> begs the quesiton why you need the D-link router at all? 
> Unless there is some other reason you haven't mentioned that 
> you need the D-link for? 
> 
> To connect to the internet via a DSL connection, and have a 
> home LAN sharing that connection, is fully within the scope 
> of the ActionTec alone (more than enough connectivity with 4 
> x LAN ports PLUS wireless). 
> In fact adding the D-link into the mix is just adding to your 
> configuration difficulties (connecting two NAT routers 
> back-to-back, each DHCP servers, each with wireless!!). For a 
> start you've having to set up port-forwarding in two places 
> when it really isn't necessary.
> 
> I suggest using the ActionTec alone and see if you can get 
> GoToMyVNC.com to see Display 0 .. 9.
> 
> --------------------------------------------
> Peter Coulter
> --------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Knowlton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 8:43 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: router config to work with VNC
> > 
> > 
> > Peter:
> > 
> > I'm grateful for your help.
> > 
> > A little more on the modem and router:
> > 
> > Both have 4 ethernet ports.  DLink Router has a WAN port,
> > which the ActionTec is plugging into right now (using one of 
> > the ethernet ports on the ActionTec).
> > 
> > The ActionTec is a model 1524R SU.  It is a Wireless-ready
> > (not being utilized by me) DSL broadband modem.  
> > 
> > ActionTec Vendor Home Page:
> > http://www.actiontec.com/
> > 
> > ActionTec Model specific:
> > http://www.actiontec.com/products/broadband/wireless_ready_dsl
> > _gateway/wireless_ready_dsl_gateway_specifications.html
> > 
> > 
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > 
> > DLink Wireless Router is a DI 614+.  I need the DLink so I
> > can transmit the Internet to our laptop, and daughter's 
> > computer upstairs.
> > 
> > DLink router Vendor Home Page:
> > http://www.dlink.com/
> > 
> > 
> > DLink router Model specific:
> > http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=20
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > =============================================
> > =============================================
> > 
> > To answer your other questions (best I can):
> > 
> > Q:  Is the modem a DHCP server?
> > A:  Yes.  I turned this OFF once with disasterous consequences.
> > 
> > In fact, I think DHCP is turned on for both the ActionTec
> > modem and the DLink router.  I think it is Dynamic DHCP 
> > assigned for both modem and router.
> > 
> > 
> > IMPORTANT UPDATE on the DLink (LAN) subnet:
> > 
> > I have changed the DLink router subnet over to 10.x.x.x.  I
> > did this last night.
> > 
> > 
> > Q:  I assume also that it is set to automatically acquire
> > Default Gateway and DNS server information from the ISP
> > 
> > A:  Not sure.  Seems right.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > <<<<<Looking forward to actually getting to the VNC bit!! ;-)>>>>>
> > 
> > Me too!
> > 
> > 
> > Right before I went to bed last night I ran the GoToMyVNC.com
> > against my IP address (205.208.x.x) and Display 0 thru 9 were 
> > NOT OPEN.  :(
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > 
> > Tom
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Coulter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 1:21 PM
> > To: Tom Knowlton; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: router config to work with VNC
> > 
> > 
> > Tom,
> > 
> > You'd need to say a bit more about the ActionTec modem before
> > I could answer questions on it. Even the model name would 
> > allow a manual to be dragged up online. But your modem must 
> > be slightly different to mine because if I type my external 
> > (dynamic) IP address into IE it doesn't take me to the modem; 
> > the only way I can access the modem via IE is using 192.168.0.1. 
> > 
> > Also, when it comes to mind: Is the modem a DHCP server? The
> > D-link router will be a DHCP server by default and you cannot 
> > have two DHCP servers on the same subnet or they will likely 
> > be issuing clashing IP addresses. So if both devices are DHCP 
> > servers the facility would have to be disabled in one or 
> > other of them. To me it makes more sense to have the router 
> > as the DHCP sever and thus deactivate the facility in the 
> > modem (if such a facility exists there).
> > 
> > It's rarely enough just to quote an IP address; usually at
> > least the sub-net mask but also the default gateway are 
> > necessary to get the whole picture (although in most 
> > small/home LANs the former can be guessed with almost 
> > complete certainty and the latter with a fair degree of 
> > certainty!) So when you say that you have moved the D-link 
> > over to the IP address 192.168.0.2 I assume you mean you've 
> > set the router IP address in the LAN-side set-up pages. I 
> > assume also that it is set to automatically acquire Default 
> > Gateway and DNS server information from the ISP; that will be 
> > how the D-link directs traffic that is not bound for its own 
> > sub-net out onto the Internet, I don't think it really cares 
> > too much about the fact it is going through the modem, it 
> > just dumps stuff out the default gateway as its only known 
> > route to the outside world.
> > 
> > I must say there are things that get me excited ... but
> > routers ain't one of 'em! :-) Looking forward to actually 
> > getting to the VNC bit!! ;-)
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tom Knowlton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 26 March 2004 03:54
> > > To: coulter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: router config to work with VNC
> > > 
> > > 
> > > UPDATE:
> > > 
> > > I moved my DLink router IP over to 192.168.0.2
> > > 
> > > Now when I type 192.168.0.2 it takes me to the DLink Router
> > config (as
> > > expected)
> > > 
> > > When I type in my static IP address (205.208.XXX.XXX) it 
> takes me to 
> > > my ActionTec broadband modem config....is that right?
> > > 
> > > Now, there is still another IP address, isn't there?  The
> > one that my
> > > DLink is using to connect to my ActionTec modem.
> > > That is the part I am not sure about.
> > > 
> > > So I need an answer to that part, plus I still need to get VNC 
> > > working.
> > > 
> > > But the good news is that for the FIRST TIME....I can get to the 
> > > firewall config for both my DLink Router and my ActionTec 
> broadband 
> > > modem WITHOUT having to disconnect any cables.  I'm so excited.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: coulter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 6:36 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Cc: Tom Knowlton
> > > Subject: RE: router config to work with VNC
> > > 
> > > 
> > > As noted by other posters your diagram is incomplete.
> > > 
> > > However what if does tell me is that you have two devices -
> > namely the
> > > Actiontec modem and the D-link router - with the same IP address
> > > namely 192.168.0.1 (you say it in words in some of the 
> > supporting text
> > > but it is not shown in the diagrams).
> > > 
> > > First you can't have two devices with the same IP address and not 
> > > expect problems. Plus your Dlink must be getting very
> > confused -- it's
> > > supposed to be a router, by definition a router routes!
> > > Usually between different sub-nets!! :-)
> > > But as it is seeing the same IP address 192.168.0.1 on each 
> > > of its port (both WAN-side and LAN-side) it's likely not a 
> > > happy bunny.
> > >   
> > > For me the easiest way to solve this is to put the modem and the 
> > > router on different sub-nets as follows: leave the  modem on 
> > > 192.168.0.1 (the 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 sub-net) and put
> > the router
> > > on a completely different sub-net. So that it is very 
> clear which is 
> > > which make them very different, thus I suggest putting 
> the router on 
> > > the 10.0.0.0 / 255.255.255.0 (although really anything other than 
> > > 192.168.0.x will do). The router being the DHCP server 
> then dishes 
> > > out LAN IP address to this revised sub-net. The very first 
> > > consequence of this will be that you can access both 
> devices via IE 
> > > using their now different IP addresses without having to be 
> > > disconnect the devices every now and again! ;-)
> > > 
> > > Once you get this difficulty between modem and router 
> sorted you may 
> > > be able to progress with VNC issues. Set up 
> port-forwarding on each 
> > > device now as appropriate.
> > >  
> > > Good luck,
> > > P
> > > 
> > > > --__--__--
> > > > 
> > > > Message: 14
> > > > Subject: RE: router config to work with VNC
> > > > Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:13:21 -0700
> > > > From: "Tom Knowlton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 
> > > > Does this diagram help any?  (until I can get Kaboodle up
> > > and running)
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.knowltonfamily.com/config_port_forward.gif
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