Ed -- I'd love to see more data on this. Where did your understanding come
from?

I looked at my cellular bill last night, and on 4 lines, the "Fed Universal
Service Charge" was a total of $1.88 on a total bill of about $180 (about
$160 of it was just the monthly fee for 4 plans).

Does anyone know how the wireless companies pay USF? E.g. they are paying
33.4% on what exactly?

Beckman

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021, Ed Guy wrote:

What service  features of the service are subject to USF?
is it only charged on retail land-line replacement or at multiple levels as a 
value-add?
My understanding is that cellular services do not pay USF ( but, when we had a
cell company several years ago, all taxes were outsourced..)


On 6/10/21, 1:07 PM, "VoiceOps on behalf of Alex Balashov"
<voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org on behalf of abalas...@evaristesys.com>
wrote:

   That, and, while I am not at all an expert on what can and can't be
   recovered from customers, it was my impression that not 100% of USF can
   be passed on.

   On 6/10/21 1:03 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:

   > Except that some of us specifically sell "bottom line" pricing that is
   > not variable and not padded with 20 lines of fees and taxes.  Because
   > our ILEC is known for quoting $100 and billing $130-150 actual price.
   >
   > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 9:38 AM Paul Timmins <p...@timmins.net> wrote:
   >
   >     On 6/10/21 6:23 AM, Alex Balashov wrote:
   >      >
   >      > Yeah, observing it as an outsider who is not a service provider,
   >     I'm a
   >      > little shocked to say the least. It's hard to understand where that
   >      > kind of money is supposed to come from with the margins in this
   >     business.
   >      >
   >     Passthru fees to the end user, duh. There's nothing us telcos can't
   >     cram
   >     on the bottom of the bill.
   >
   >     Customers are gonna be ticked, but what ya gonna do. It's a line item
   >     now, and a line item later.

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