Peter, > Where did your understanding come from?
My info could now be called 'Myth' - I've been out of the retail business for about 9 years. For cellular in US, we had to keep track of originating party jurisdiction, terminating party jurisdiction, and any O/T cells involved. Then the tax wizards ran some formula to break it up. The tax and billing software & services were more expensive than the communications systems. Alex, I recall a lot of discussion about 'Safe Harbor' tax payments - rather than detailed per call billing, using broad formulas to distribute the tax... Was particularly useful for flat-rate bundled plans. The tax man seemed unconcerned as long as they got their money. (Again, I would classify my retained knowledge as 'myth' ) /ed ** A couple more data points - $350 verizon wireless bill: Surcharges $2.64 Fed Universal Service Charge $0.48 Regulatory Charge $0.21 Administrative Charge $1.95 Taxes and gov fees $1.27 NJ 911 System/Emerg. Resp. Fee $0.90 NJ State Sls Tax-Telco $0.37 Phone.com: 05/12/2021 - 06/11/2021 Virtual Office plan $14.88 05/13/2021 Regulatory recovery fee $0.38 05/12/2021 - 05/13/2021 FUSF (VoIP) $3.32 05/12/2021 - 05/13/2021 FCC regulatory fee (VoIP) $0.05 05/12/2021 - 05/13/2021 Sales tax $1.25 On 6/10/21, 3:58 PM, "Peter Beckman" <beck...@angryox.com> wrote: Ed -- I'd love to see more data on this. Where did your understanding come from? I looked at my cellular bill last night, and on 4 lines, the "Fed Universal Service Charge" was a total of $1.88 on a total bill of about $180 (about $160 of it was just the monthly fee for 4 plans). Does anyone know how the wireless companies pay USF? E.g. they are paying 33.4% on what exactly? Beckman On Thu, 10 Jun 2021, Ed Guy wrote: > What service features of the service are subject to USF? > is it only charged on retail land-line replacement or at multiple levels as a value-add? > My understanding is that cellular services do not pay USF ( but, when we had a > cell company several years ago, all taxes were outsourced..) > > > On 6/10/21, 1:07 PM, "VoiceOps on behalf of Alex Balashov" > <voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org on behalf of abalas...@evaristesys.com> > wrote: > > That, and, while I am not at all an expert on what can and can't be > recovered from customers, it was my impression that not 100% of USF can > be passed on. > > On 6/10/21 1:03 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote: > > > Except that some of us specifically sell "bottom line" pricing that is > > not variable and not padded with 20 lines of fees and taxes. Because > > our ILEC is known for quoting $100 and billing $130-150 actual price. > > > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 9:38 AM Paul Timmins <p...@timmins.net> wrote: > > > > On 6/10/21 6:23 AM, Alex Balashov wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, observing it as an outsider who is not a service provider, > > I'm a > > > little shocked to say the least. It's hard to understand where that > > > kind of money is supposed to come from with the margins in this > > business. > > > > > Passthru fees to the end user, duh. There's nothing us telcos can't > > cram > > on the bottom of the bill. > > > > Customers are gonna be ticked, but what ya gonna do. It's a line item > > now, and a line item later. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Beckman Internet Guy beck...@angryox.com http://www.angryox.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops