$3.19 is right around 24% of 33.4% of $39.95. Maybe Comcast's traffic studies show that 24% of phone traffic is interstate, so that's the amount that gets the USF charge?
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Yaklin" <myak...@firstlight.net> To: "Peter Beckman" <beck...@angryox.com>, "Ed Guy" <ed...@eguy.org> Cc: voiceops@voiceops.org Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:07:53 PM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021 A comcast business package looks like this right now for a small biz: Internet - 69.95 Voice line - 39.95 Voice equipment fee - 18.45 (that is hilarious to convert their coax signal to fxs) FUSF - 3.19 Regulatory cost recovery - 1.36 Voice network investment - 3.00 (wtf) Directory listing mgmt fee - 2.00 Sales tax - 4.22 911 fees - 1.50 Grand total - 143.62 Where and how is that 3.19 calculated? I am curious as well. Matt -----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps <voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org> On Behalf Of Peter Beckman Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:58 PM To: Ed Guy <ed...@eguy.org> Cc: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021 Ed -- I'd love to see more data on this. Where did your understanding come from? I looked at my cellular bill last night, and on 4 lines, the "Fed Universal Service Charge" was a total of $1.88 on a total bill of about $180 (about $160 of it was just the monthly fee for 4 plans). Does anyone know how the wireless companies pay USF? E.g. they are paying 33.4% on what exactly? Beckman On Thu, 10 Jun 2021, Ed Guy wrote: > What service features of the service are subject to USF? > is it only charged on retail land-line replacement or at multiple levels as a > value-add? > My understanding is that cellular services do not pay USF ( but, when > we had a cell company several years ago, all taxes were outsourced..) > > > On 6/10/21, 1:07 PM, "VoiceOps on behalf of Alex Balashov" > <voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org on behalf of abalas...@evaristesys.com> > wrote: > > That, and, while I am not at all an expert on what can and can't be > recovered from customers, it was my impression that not 100% of USF can > be passed on. > > On 6/10/21 1:03 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote: > > > Except that some of us specifically sell "bottom line" pricing that is > > not variable and not padded with 20 lines of fees and taxes. Because > > our ILEC is known for quoting $100 and billing $130-150 actual price. > > > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 9:38 AM Paul Timmins <p...@timmins.net> wrote: > > > > On 6/10/21 6:23 AM, Alex Balashov wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, observing it as an outsider who is not a service provider, > > I'm a > > > little shocked to say the least. It's hard to understand where that > > > kind of money is supposed to come from with the margins in this > > business. > > > > > Passthru fees to the end user, duh. There's nothing us telcos can't > > cram > > on the bottom of the bill. > > > > Customers are gonna be ticked, but what ya gonna do. It's a line item > > now, and a line item later. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Beckman Internet Guy beck...@angryox.com http://www.angryox.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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